tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post909267649601421754..comments2023-07-17T06:23:08.750-07:00Comments on Elsinore Magazine 1: EVMWD WRONG AGAINElsinore Magazine 1http://www.blogger.com/profile/03033475800663131345noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-42544418403517861002007-11-01T11:16:00.000-07:002007-11-01T11:16:00.000-07:00The CPUC and Nevada Hydro may succeed with the wir...The CPUC and Nevada Hydro may succeed with the wires with the help of EVMWD which has been the plan all along in the mean time millions have been dolled out. BB&K has made a fortune calling Phil Williams sir along with Mrs Anderson and Mr. Wicke sir. Why would one advise them correctly when one is making a fortune. They are the three most responsible for this mess. If Mr. LLoyd has a conscience he better do something he's not a scamming greedy idiot so im not sure what he's waiting for but Mr. Lloyd dont let these people push you around their not honest people as im sure you know. They continue to have adhoc meetings over 5 years now to scam this is a clear violation of the brown act and Pacheco is giving classes on the Brown Act talk about gut wrenching disguist what a bunch of greedy sickos get angry Mr. Lloyd just enough to do your job believe me you have a huge amount of support backed up by eveidence and if you knew how much I know it would bring you much comfort and reassurance. Get to work and fight fire with fire you have as much right as Phil Williams its not his board like he thinks kick his ass because your smarter than him do it with knowledge and courage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-3088968597352813792007-10-31T00:05:00.000-07:002007-10-31T00:05:00.000-07:00As a geologist I would advise no swimming in the l...As a geologist I would advise no swimming in the lake it only takes a tiny amount of aresnic in the body to cause cancer, I dont think people understand the damage a small amount less than the size if the top of a needle can do. Its bad enough their digging up the lake bottom to build homes. The aresnic put the job on hold. On windy days wear a mask while construction is going on or stay inside. The lake bottom has heavy metals and pcbs substances you dont want in your body so humble yourselves if your trying to make a point by swimming in Lake Elsinore, and stay safe. These substances may take years to cause cancer but the potential is there. By encouraging swimming in Lake Elsinore you may hurt someone you love a long way down the road. So please stay out and stay safe. I know the risk of chronic ilness from heavy metals is alot higher then the ameoba you have written about. Take precautions and use common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-89302275572132154432007-10-30T10:33:00.000-07:002007-10-30T10:33:00.000-07:00Gutterboo you talk about people exposuring who the...Gutterboo you talk about people exposuring who they are why don't you expose who you are - really your don't have to I already am sure who you are an a------.Your statement regarding Phil Williams "if he has violated so many laws why has he not been convicted?" Law enforsement takes a little time - just this morning on the news the Sheriff was under investigation for several years now they indicted him. <BR/><BR/>Also we have the documents and Mr. Williams is going to be exposed. They will come out in droves and expose his illegal conduct. He thinks he is infallible along with Wicke and Gugliepiggggggggy. Remember we have the facts .....and I know someone who has the documents and you can bet they will be used and many have already been used. So Mr. Gutterboooooooooooo expose who you are instead belittling others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-73601147838320593602007-10-30T06:16:00.000-07:002007-10-30T06:16:00.000-07:00Phil Williams has done nothing but lead the EVMWD ...Phil Williams has done nothing but lead the EVMWD into debt of over 4$4 million to 2 People who comprise Nevada Hydro Corporation. Nevada Hydro is teaming up with the CPUC to make the towers a reality, but Phil's dream of a hydro plant is doomed, it was never going to happen anyway, now because of Phil, we have electric towers that will become a reality, and EVMWD is out $4million. Phil is a very tough pill to swallow, he is having a meeting in Temescal Canyon to show off the LEAPS project. Phil, LEAPS is not going to happen, the towers are and without your help. Hell all you know how to do is spend EVMWD dollars on a project that isn't going to happen. Your out Phil, Nevada Hydro and the PCUC are in, as are the towers they will build. You are so stupid, don't you get it, you have been used, not like I care, but you used my money to do it with, use your own money, and get a job, stop making up meetings that you say you attend as an EVMWD representative so you can get money. Last I heard you can stand in front of the Home Depot for work, but get ready Phil, you will have to make something and complete a task, not bullshit your way as you do at EVMWD. There is no other work for a person of your credentials, get a job and leave EVMWD please, you've lost enough of my money on your wet dream you call LEAPS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-3116503316830485372007-10-29T23:23:00.000-07:002007-10-29T23:23:00.000-07:00As you know Mr. Boo this is not a level playing fi...As you know Mr. Boo this is not a level playing field. I saw what the gang did to Chris Hyland A person trying to do exactly what god wants her to do expose the WRONG DOING. EVMWD sent her picture in a witches hat all over town. Rate payer money wasted to be hateful and cruel. These are words on a blog some are hurtful true. Perhaps the word hate applys to your group imagine that. REMEMBER TO HURT ANOTHER PERSON IS TO HURT YOURSELF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-63590447108784877482007-10-29T23:10:00.000-07:002007-10-29T23:10:00.000-07:00Good try BUT IM NOT TELLING! Mr Williams has been ...Good try BUT IM NOT TELLING! Mr Williams has been used buter boo boo you know that. You should realize he is the least of our concerns. You see in your arogance you assume we all have a childish get even mentality. It's pleasing to me your counting on that. Mr. BOO BOO nothing anonymous about that name in fact its quite common there have been alot of boo boo's in Riverside County over the years. Maybe you could be the first boo boo to come forward and stop hiding in the back room with Phil and wicke anderson and the little man Mr. Lewanski whom you've given millions to. It takes alot of back room meetings to spend millions does it not? I know you want to know what my case is but I just dont think I should tell. Greed and stealing will drive one to hate who they are. You see greed leads to harm to others because money when used wisely can protect and even save lives something as simple as a sign. But when many are in the back room scamming the innocent are hurt. You know that Mr. BooBoo. If I were involved in activities that had indirectly hurt someone I would hate myself too. Lucky for you god forgives. He has everything under control, and he certainly does not need us to help him. We cant fix the world and if we try it will drive us insane or make us sick. BUT WHAT GOD DOES EXPECT US TO DO IS STAND UP AND TELL THE TRUTH AND EXPOSE WRONG DOING AND GOD WILL FINISH THE JOB IN HIS OWN WAY. He can lead alot of people to read this web sit so lets clean up the language. Mr. Boo dont assume your more powerful than GOD. You dont determine who reads this site he does. If he says a million a million it will be. Your hypochritical statement contains the word hate hiding two wrongs dont make a right but the boos out number the anonymous so we hide for now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-75495840196808055862007-10-29T16:10:00.000-07:002007-10-29T16:10:00.000-07:00It is really easy to hide in the background and ta...It is really easy to hide in the background and talk negatively about Mr. Williams, but I have not seen any evidence he has violated any laws. You hide behind "anonymous" and are not man/women enough to stand up for your statements and sign your name. Mr. Williams has spent many hours of his time trying to make Elsinore a better place to live. What have you done to improve our way of life? except to participate in verbal mud slinging. <BR/><BR/>If he has violated so many laws why has he not been convicted? It looks like this is a personal matter, to me. He is up for re-election next year, if you want him out, it is your right to run for his seat. Use the political process to your advantage, not the back door verbal abuse method. Stand up and make your point, but you better make sure you have your facts straight. Once you start mis-stating facts like you have done here you start sounding like a crazy person who has nothing better to do but throw mud. <BR/><BR/>How dirty do you want to get?<BR/><BR/>And why do you care where he works? If he works for Century 21, Acme or XYZ Co. why does that matter to you? He needs to make a living for his family!<BR/><BR/>It appears you just have a personal problem with Mr. Williams that you can not get over and would prefer to sit in the back of the room and make false and misleading statements. Try moving to the front of the room and make a valid point with documented proof. <BR/><BR/>In this blog you have what maybe 5 people that read this, and even less that want to read your ranting and mis-guided hatred. I know these blogs are for this type of thing, but if you really want to make a difference don't hide in the background, step-up and make your case or grow-up, go-home and get a life...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-81556519899069021722007-10-28T13:07:00.000-07:002007-10-28T13:07:00.000-07:00People better get their acts together and RECALL P...People better get their acts together and RECALL PHIL WILLIAMS. It appears he is violating closed session meetings. Secondly, he is an unethical liar that was proven by a recent lawsuit brought against him stating: 1. Breach of contract; 2. Professional Negligence; 3 Breach of Fiduciary Duty; 4. Fraud, and 5. Negligent Misrepresentation. <BR/><BR/>And why did he have to leave Century 21 - which he did recently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-19431934702005918062007-10-24T20:12:00.000-07:002007-10-24T20:12:00.000-07:00I think the problem is people want to be liked and...I think the problem is people want to be liked and dont have the courage to stand up for whats right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-34827879638172928352007-10-24T00:33:00.000-07:002007-10-24T00:33:00.000-07:00Its sad to say many but not all times it has to do...Its sad to say many but not all times it has to do with money. Have you ever heard a truer statement than this. MONEY IS THE ROUTE OF ALL EVIL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-91544193986501348142007-10-24T00:27:00.000-07:002007-10-24T00:27:00.000-07:00Why dont those in high positions protect the peopl...Why dont those in high positions protect the people. You have to be very cautious and untrusting in this day and age it seems or you may get hurt.You cant assume people are doing their job and that life is safe. Somehow people have lost a true sense of caring for others. If we cant even do that during our short life span here does our life mean anything. To hurt another person is to hurt yourself. Denial, rationalization,look the other way, lack of motivation there is no excuse not to do your job when people less educated etc. are puting their trust and sometimes their lives in your hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-13483662081134609382007-10-24T00:16:00.000-07:002007-10-24T00:16:00.000-07:00Nicole entered the hospital with a high fever whic...Nicole entered the hospital with a high fever which was difficult to control secondary to the brain stem damage in which the pathways that control temp were malfunctioning due to infection. One week of tylenol around the clock and organs shutting down can cause tylenol poisioning, her liver would not look ok as the forensic toxicologist stated if the tylenol abuse were due to chronic or long term abuse in this case liver scaring would be present. Short term tylenol poisioning a result of treatment did not show chorinic liver failure signs such as scaring as the forensic toxicologist stated. Whats wrong with the Riverside coroner. Why would he give a forensic toxicologist a report stating liver failure from chronic acetamenaphen abuse without the results of the definitive tests to prove it. He knows this will be in the paper. And why would Mrs. Cole director of disease control say dont worry in this case I think a beware or carful in the shallow lake would have been appropriate considerring a young girl died.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-55030271214230701442007-10-18T08:50:00.000-07:002007-10-18T08:50:00.000-07:00Well Killllllroy is busy spraying algacide all ove...Well Killllllroy is busy spraying algacide all over the docks so maybe he will release some blue green algae and they will all get what they deservre, or better yet maybe they will fall into that soup of thermiphilles their creating with all the chemicals dog shit and algacides and inhale a few. yipee.. Im allowed to Dream Extreme!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-59394519775845509042007-10-16T10:09:00.000-07:002007-10-16T10:09:00.000-07:00You know they need that pier so when thier friends...You know they need that pier so when thier friends come up <BR/>from Newport Beach on thier yacht they have someplace to dock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-44349607700319505082007-10-16T09:13:00.000-07:002007-10-16T09:13:00.000-07:00I can only imagine what condition the remaining ti...I can only imagine what condition the remaining tissue samples will be in when and if they reach the CDC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-63429776128998843842007-10-16T09:00:00.000-07:002007-10-16T09:00:00.000-07:00The city is thinking only of the new city hall whi...The city is thinking only of the new city hall which will put them in debt for a long time. That is their main priority so get used to it. The article in the paper stating Nicole Hedberg died of tylenol poisioning is ridiculous. The coroner knows the part of your brain that controls your body temperature is in the base of your brain. This area was damaged by infection. I can just imagine all the tylenol that was given to try and control her fever and most likley it didn't work. Ofcourse her liver would show tylenol poisioning but thats not what brought her to the ICU and that is not what killed her that is just a consequence of her treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-34027160920025338552007-10-16T08:08:00.000-07:002007-10-16T08:08:00.000-07:00What happened to the new Fire Station that the cit...What happened to the new Fire <BR/>Station that the city was going to build in Rossetta Canyon? It was in the newspaper a few months ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-52825511589660278162007-10-12T01:45:00.000-07:002007-10-12T01:45:00.000-07:00I found some info on the pathogen for those who ar...I found some info on the pathogen for those who are intrested. Infection by the pathogenic naegleria fowleri is aquired by exposure to poluted water in ponds, swimming pools or lakes. Raised temperatures during hot summer months or a warmer source of water by as small as a degree instilled into a lake such as effluent treated waste water, industrial cooling power plant discharge and several others facilitate the growth of N. fowleri. Another example is urban run off such as the run off that flows into lake elsinore. The heat as it flows over cement asphalt and the enviornment warms the water which bacteria love. N. fowleri is a thermphilic ameoba it adapts to harsh enviornments and can even thrive in chemically polluted waters. The danger is waters that are polluted with chemicals attract the more dangerous thermophilles because nothing else can exist there. urban run off contains pet waste, trash lawn fertilizers, herbicides, as well as heavy metals oils and pollutants from vehicles. People sometimes think storm run off drains connect to the sewers and they pour all kinds of hazardous waste in them. In some cities these run off systems connect to the sewer, in lake elsinore they do not. The CNS infection called primary amebic meningoencephalitis or PAM produced by N. fowleri is characterized by an acute fulminant meningoencephalitis leading to death within seven days or longer depending on how rapid it spreads. Victims are healthy young individuals with a history of recent water related sport activities. The portal of entry is the olfactory neuroepithelium. The pathologic changes are an acute hemorrhagic necrotizing meningioencephalitis with modest purulent exudate mainly at the base of the brain, brain stem and cerebellum. Portal of entry is probably through the respiratory tract or an ulceration of the skin. Physcians stated what killed Nicole Hedberg was swelling eventually crushed her brain stem and she died about ten days later. What the above means is the ameoba ate away at the brain stem which caused bleeding which led to swelling and swelling was increased by purulent drainage or pus necrotizing means the infection caused the tissue to die. Waste,chemicals, heat, nutrient enriched polluted waters with run off describe lake elsinore and I believe this young woman died because she played and swam all summer in lake elsinore. She stirred up the lake bottom where the ameoba lives with her wave runner. And I also believe because I cant prove it thanks to no one caring and I say this because riverside county disease control did nothing and recently stated in the paper that we should not worry. I also believe the city will continue to allow anyone and everyone to swim in lake elsinore except that is; their families friends loved ones and ofcourse themselves. Evmwd can expel water into the lake that may kill the bacteria but they cant take out all the chemical that we put down our drains. People should not be swimming in the water it contains chemicals and pollutants. I do agree the lake is beautiful to look at but please do your homework because no matter how beautiful it is swimming should not be allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-44641552309312208752007-10-11T14:26:00.000-07:002007-10-11T14:26:00.000-07:00What it comes to is the lake city officials cant b...What it comes to is the lake city officials cant be trusted. And I get no pleasure about making this judgement about the current city council. The lake has improved it is pretty, but please aknowledge both sides. Past city council members allowed five deaths in a perioud of less than two years time in a known drop off near the shore. One victim was a five year old that visited our city anxiously looking forward to his camping trip. After the first death not even a sign was placed by city officials in this known drop off site. A young girl 15 visiting lake elsinore with her church group unsuspecting fell in the drop off and died. wading knee deep then the next second plunging into 12 feet of green moss to her death. A sign did not go up. Next a father with five children left to be raised by only the mom. After five deaths a sign never went up for many years. Now your wondering what does this have to do with the current city council and water board. well two city council members and the city attorney that were there during these deaths are still on the council. Some of the same water board members are still on the water board presently with the same attorney. The city and the water board respect their attorneys and take their advice. Their are three reform council members. A 25 year old just died last summer from a rare ameoba the symptoms are consistent with nigleria a type of meningitis caused by an ameoba that lives in shallow lake bottoms when inhaled in a mist it attaches to the olfactory nerve and causes death within weeks because it eats brain and nerve tissue. This girl lived on the lake and played on her wave runner which sits directly on the shore and slides. This ameoba lives and thrives in thermal powered waters EVMWD has been releasing reclamation water into the lake the past few years. The city council is doing the same thing they did with the drownings close their eyes to everything. I think the lake should be used for boating but a responsible city would not allow swimming in a lake that has miles of run off pouring into it. Run off can have alot of contaminents in it whatever is placed in the run off depending on what it is will reach the lake. Its good to be positive but when lives are at stake and you took an oath to protect them it is better to be cautious then close your eyes and pretend everythings fine because the lake has improved. The lake has improved it no longer smells. Does that mean its safe absolutely not. No matter how small the risk is we have a right to decide if we want to take it. Even though a young girl died mysteriously the city closed their eyes. Spin it whatever way you want the lake is not safe to swim in. Swimming should not be allowed and if it is signs should warn in spanish and english the lake may contain contaminents. Since the city closed their eyes to a young girls death no one checked lake bottom sediment for nagleria were not sure so thats an excuse not to post a sign. So the city will wait and see if another death occurs. Remember their armed with all this information so their children wont be in the lake, so what the water board and city council will do is sit back wait and see if another death occurs. It wont be one of their loved ones just like one of their loved ones would of never drowned because they were aware of the drop off. Their aware of the contaminents and their aware of this rare deadly meningitis so they or their children wont be swimming in lake elsinore. Dont be a brainwashed old fool your right the lake has greatly improved its pretty all true but does that make it safe for swimming absolutely not. When someones life is at stake it is always better to error on the side of caution for that your respected a human life is more important thaen money. By not being cautious as we have learned from the past more deaths may occur. Their are other deadly pathogens that can flow into the lake from run off dont be so foolish. The lake will always be poluted to some degree pull your heads out of the sand a beautiful blue jewel can be unpredictable just like the beautiful blue ocean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-6157596613220439432007-10-11T10:06:00.000-07:002007-10-11T10:06:00.000-07:00While the views on this web site tend to be one si...While the views on this web site <BR/>tend to be one sided so do the<BR/>press releases given out by the <BR/>City and the EVMWD. To be an informed voter we all need to listen to both sides and draw our <BR/>own conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-29426240710059173322007-10-11T08:32:00.000-07:002007-10-11T08:32:00.000-07:00As a member of LEMSAR (Lake Elsinore Marine Search...As a member of LEMSAR (Lake Elsinore Marine Search and Rescue) I am on the lake every week. I have seen hundred/thousands of people enjoying the lake as they should. Over the past few years I have heard numerous comments on how much nicer the lake is over what is use to be. Yes, there are still some issues and yes, I would like to see things move faster but it is getting better. There are people who have noticed the change and like the direction things are going. I am not sure about the political side of things, but I do know this; The lake is getting better and to EVMWD and the City of Lake Elsinore, keep going there are people who appreciate the change.Gutterboohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115052991011610265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-5131366860314874582007-10-11T07:54:00.000-07:002007-10-11T07:54:00.000-07:00WOW. Finally some positive comments. I have read n...WOW. Finally some positive comments. I have read nothing but negative comments and I was getting tired of it. I have to agree, the lake is much better now than what it was when I was a kid and with the fans, aeriation, wells, etc. it will get better. I have no problem letting my kids play in the lake. IT LOOKS GREAT. It is nice to see there are positive people like me who think Lake Elsinore is a great place to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-62277787545690695092007-10-11T07:29:00.000-07:002007-10-11T07:29:00.000-07:00Several comments have been made about the lake qua...<I>Several comments have been made about the lake quality, which are mis-guided.</I> <BR/>In the 80's the lake quality was so bad, boats had a layer of scum on the hull after only a few minutes in the water. Starting in the early 90's the lake started to improve, by the end of the 90's the lake showed significant improvement. Today the lake is cleaner and clearer than it has ever been. This is an on going process, not something that can be solved over night. EVMWD, the City and SAWPA have done a great job in cleaning up the lake. Currently, the lake level (1,242) is getting to the point where we will again start to have problems with the lake. EVMWD is putting in reclaimed water, water that is cleaner that what washes into the lake each time it rains, water that is cleaner that some public swimming pools. The amount coming in will not stop the lake from receding but it will slow it down. Putting in 5 mil gallons a day when 15+ mil evaporates is like filling a swimming pool with a shot glass. I am in and/or on the lake almost every day. The lake has seen a dramatic improvement over the years and I am proud of how it looks today. I have heard a ton of critisim from most everyone on this site about the lake but no one is making suggestions... If you want to complain fine, if you have other suggestions to help the lake then make them. <B>Complaining is easy;</B> helping to solve the problems and working to create a better Lake Elsinore takes hard work. <B>If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-62477860130568831762007-10-08T01:04:00.000-07:002007-10-08T01:04:00.000-07:00I have an idea Gugli-lugi Phil anderson Wicke Rya...I have an idea Gugli-lugi Phil anderson Wicke Ryan and lloyd and mayor magge and council all need to swim in the lake and do forward summersaults while inhaling deeply and forcefully thru the nose. But please be sure to walk on your hands and stir up that lake bottom first. Afterall its ok for the cities children to do somersaults and walk on their hands did you forgrt this is a favorite trick they like to do. And Our mayor may want to bathe in the lake since he thinks its" a beautiful blue jewel" as he stated in the valley news. Phil williams scares me every time he makes a statement in the paper. He stated in the valley news, are you ready for this one because its a doozy! "we are the first lake to allow full body contact in reclaimed lake water" Phil a little advice why dont you wait and see what happens before you tell everyone how proud you are about allowing unsuspecting visitors and residents and children to play in waste water. Someone died that played in the waste water all summer, but in your selfish world I guess the two couldn't possibly be related. Come play unsuspecting innocent kids phil says its ok. You sure as hell wont see him or his kids in the water the dirty bastard.In fact you wont see a single city official or their children near the water. A few go out on boats but with their knowledge their very careful. What about the rest of us well they dont give a fuck if your 3 years old swim away in the beautiful blue jewel. However this comment may be a blessing in disguise, some people dont know waste water is in the lake. Just when I think this man cant be anymore foolish or selfish he makes an even dumber statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3886458154915694546.post-9816839070103150562007-10-07T20:06:00.000-07:002007-10-07T20:06:00.000-07:00I got your Hazmat Hanging Buddy..I got your Hazmat Hanging Buddy..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com