Friday, May 18, 2007

POWERFUL REJECTION ON LEAPS



ELSIMORE MAGAZINE 1
May 18, 2007
A very, very! powerful rejection on the LEAPS Project handed down by the Caiso and the California Electricity Oversee Board on May 1 2007. The rejections found that LEAPS is not a viable project under its present plan. As city treasurer Peter Weber reported the LEAPS Project will not make a profit for anyone, confirmed by Caiso and the California Electricty Oversee Board in thier powerful rejections report of May 1. Matter of fact they all concurred that the LEAPS Project would lose millions yearly. Another point in the rejections made by the two agencies is that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 does not cover the whole LEAPS project plan of Nevada Hydro's present plan. Nevada Hydro had asked for some $80 million in public funds gaurantee for the first three years with the pay back falling back on the ratepayers. It was rejected. The rejection is a big blow to Nevada Hydro's gauranteed funds and the LEAPS Project as a whole. EVMWD has allocated over 3 million dollars to Nevada Hydro since the 1997 Development Agreement Plan. There are reports that shows who EVMWD paid the individual bills to for Nevada Hydro but no reports on what the actual bills were paid for and why it was necessary to pay these Nevada Hydro bills. Among some who issued invoices to EVMWD for payment for, Nevada Hydro is EVMWD's very own law firm Best, Best & Krieger in amounts over a millions within about a 18 month period. It is a question on why would Nevada Hydro use EVMWD's attorney firm instead of one of their own law firm. There are also a question as to whether or not the approval of the 1997 Development Agreement between EVMWD and Nevada Hydro by a previous Board of Directors is still applicable to the pesent LEAPS Project P 11858 which is a very different project than the project that was originally articulated back in 1997. These comments came from EVMWD's Districts Attorney John Brown at a March 22 Board Meeting. Interested citizens should check into the applicability of the 1997 Development Agreement for LEAPS on its validity. Another interesting issue surfacing is the Energy Policy Act of 2005. More than 40 members of Congress are calling on the nations energy secretary to put off designating national electric corridors in Southern California and the East Coast. Senators and Representatives signed a letter dated Tuesday addressed to Secretary Samuel Bodman stating that the agency isn't providing the public an adequate opportunity to comment on the corridor plan which include Southern California. Comments for public opposing or favoring views will be open to July 6, plus additional public meetings are planned. Public may comment by computer at http://nietc.anl.gov/involve/comments/index.cfm or more info contact Staff Writer Dave Downey at 760 740 5442 or downey@nctimes.com
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93 comments:

Anonymous said...

EVMWD wants to raise or rates even though they have a 90,000,000 dollar surplus. Their angry because they lost and now their going to be exposed. Wicke stated things are out of EVMWDS control thats the first statement Ive heard that moron say that is true yes you and the gang have allowed things to spiral out of control one can only imagine how many warnings EVMWD had that our water is not meeting standards and not safe to drink. It takes alot of warnings before letters go out to the public. EVMWDS priority is to spend 3,000,000 dollars on travel and lawyers for this stupid leaps project im sure they've had and our continuing to have fun at rate payers expense. Its just to bad none of the morons can add or understand numbers. Kris Anderson is no CPA in fact she's as dumb as dirt, she thought the project was viable.

Anonymous said...

Ratepayers,they want to raise our rates and that it outrageous. Based on the money I have learned that is expended for frivolous travel,conferences,and you name it.

I have been furnished with the following information as to where some of our rate money is going. Information appears on the Employee Travel Authorization Listing for EVMWD. I am just listing one as an example which clearly shows how our ratepayer money is being spent. For what? EVMWD has hired I understand Lobbyist who should be taking care of business in Washington, DC. Is it really necessary for this employee to be flyer every other day to Sacramento and Washington, D.C. This is just one minuet example.
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Greg Morrison
Beg Travel End Travel
2-16-06 2-16-06 Sacramento
2-27-06 3-02-06 Washington DC
3-02-06 3-03-06 Sacramento
3-07-06 3-09-06 Sacramento

Total Cost $4,536.20
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Records will show that he and certain other individuals are constantly traveling to Sacramento and Washington, D.C. Question is does he want to be a political leader and is using rate payer money to promote a possibly run for an office?

Rumor: It is said he once worked for political leaders. One of them I understand would shock us.

Now is the time for rate payers to start thinking about removing Phil Williams and Harvey Ryan and take Gugliemana with them. Oh, yes,after being on the Board only a month Gugliemana I understand went on a trip to Washington, D.C. what a waste of rate payer money. I undertand in 30 years that woman never attended a Water Board meeting until Anderson and Williams recruited her to run against Chris Hyland.

Interesting what will the last Chapter produce.

Anonymous said...

I checked with another city (the city handles the sewer) and they too are raising thier rates for sewer from $3.51 to $3.69 a month.

Anonymous said...

700 dollars each for these fucking bastards on the water board to go to vegas and stay at New York New York. This is just one of hundreds of trips these pigs have taken at rate payers expense. Our water is filthy and contaminated and these uneducated greedy fuck ups are spending rate payer money like crazy. Feed while you can hogs your going to be exposed. These fuckers remind me of KILLLLroy he once went to a casino in Coneticut flew to Sacramento the next day and then back to Washington DC. All the while people were drowning in the lakein a known lake drop of he was supposed to oversee. Pretty sick. EVMWD is exactly like the city used to be only their worse because the water district has more money to steal.Lake Elsinore had a bad reputation due to those in leadership kelly shitnear brinley the thought makes you sick to your stomach. The water board is worse than the city used to be before they were forced into reform. Years of a corrupt city council and water board will ruin a city and give it a bad name . The problem with this is every corrupt business person from miles around perpetuates the problem by coming here, because corrupt dumb leaders in a fantasy world bring awful people to our city. That is why this city has a bad reputation bad leadership for years. The city is on the right track they were forced into a reform that spun the shit heads around blind sided them before they even knew what hit them. Now the fowl scum at EVMWD needs to be cleaned up. Lloyd you stink coward.

Anonymous said...

RECALL - RECALL - RECALL - PHIL WILLIAMS - JUDY GUGLIEMANA - BEN WICKE - HARVEY RYAN AND JOHN LLOYD.

Send our water bills to them for voting for the highest rate increase in the State of California.

Anonymous said...

Why did the city want lose money by annexing Canyon Hills Estate?
Press Enterprise 5/25 So the devoloper could make money?

canyon hills bills said...

follow the money

Anonymous said...

this weekend we are remebering the soldiers who died for our country and praying for the ones who are fighting for us RIGHT THIS SECOND UNDER THE BELIEF THAT THEY ARE RISKINGF THEIR LIVES FOR A CAUSE WHICH IS THE preservation of our country and its ideals. everyone knows someone is fighting over there in iraq or waiting to graduate so they can go serve their country and we all hope to God that they return safely to their families unharmed. Meanwhile back at the hometowns, political prostitution is celebrated, applauded and given a wink and a nod. Business as usual they say well, ya know about "politics", ya can't tame 'em so why not join e'm! Yep what a proud day for us when the people elected to office can't even have the guts to say no to the wanna-be kingmakers throwing cash around like candy. Now THAT's sick, despicable, immoral and ignorant. Any moron can write a check but it takes a person of inteegrity to say no.

Anonymous said...

Did you see the latest flyer regarding the RECALL of Wicke, Williams, Grugliepiggy and Ryan? Guess we should add John Lloyd since he has now sold out to the clan by voting YES FOR THE RATE INCREASE. One must find out the hard way when you trust someone who you think you supported and they turn tail.

Anonymous said...

Im shocked at John LLoyds behaviour. I guess I shouldn't be he's a follower and a coward like most elected officials. I didn't expect him to be perfect but I certainly didn't expect to see him do nothing except damage the city further and add stress to many elderly people on a limited budget. LLoyd sits up there with his fat red face looking terrified, what is wrong with the dumb ass. A 96% increase he said nothing. Just sitting up there like a fat stinking rotting piece of flesh. He was quick to vote yes on the rate increase. I know now he can speak because I heard the word yes and very quick to say yes. I saw an amused look on his face as treasurer weber spoke. Well Mr. LLoyd its not amusing to us that your a coward unwilling to even attempt to help your constituents. YOU SIT UP THERE WHILE EVMWD CONTINUES TO SPEND MONEY ON THE LEAPS PROJECT. YOUR THE BIGGEST FUCKING LOSER UP THERE. WHY DID YOU RUN YOUR DOING NOTHING. SIT BACK AND LET PINNOW AND WEBER DO THE WORK GO AHEAD JUST SIT UP THEIR LIKE A FAT LUMP OF LARD WITH A BIG FAT RED FACE AND DO NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

also i might mention mr lloyd. as soon as you got elected you took your clean up evmwd web site down. You had no intention of cleaning up evmwd, you just sit their making 1900 dollars a month to waste is that why you and your wife are getting fatter mr. lloyd. next time your stuffing your face with your fat wife think about the elderly people that will have less money to buy food because your a coward. Im sure you abandoned the people of Wildomar as quick as you dropped your website. you pretended to help to get your name out there so you could get elected. How many meetings have you been to lately regarding wildomar becomming their own city. ADMIT IT YOU SHIT ON THEM JUST LIKE YOU SHIT ON THE ELDERLY, AND ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

Anonymous said...

no wonder most good people don't run for public office. One "false" move and the blasting begins. Leave the guy alone( and his wife a girl scout leader of all things) and let him do his job. Just because he isn't doing what you think he should isn't a reason to tear him apart. Did you talk to him about his vote? Nope. Didn't think so. I'm not stupid but it takes a lot for me to lose faith in a person. Are you perfect? I know I'm not. So lay off the personal attacks. They aren't true anyways.Go ahead and blast a few at me. Make my day.

Anonymous said...

No im not perfect Im not cut out to be an elected official but atleast I admit it. I would never lead people to believe I was going to clean up EVMWD and then do nothing. If I had my doubts about whether or not I could be a leader but decided to go for it anyway I would pray for the courage to do what I need to do I would strive to do my best and some how find that courage within. Now if I couldn't do that I would admit it and step down. One false move and Mr. LLoyd is blasted. Mr Lloyd is not doing what I want him to do. You need to step into reality, Mr. Lloyd is doing nothing. HELLO IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE. The comment was very mean and Mr. LLoyds wife should not be blamed for his weakness. But I will say this I feel much more sorry for Mr. LLoyds constituents and the elderly that live on a limited budget and now have to decide if they want to buy food or medicine with the 20 dollars they no longer have. If Mr. LLoyd cant take the heat he needs to go. If you have no courage or integrity or ability to attempt to make the changes you promised those who elected you then you should step down being an enabler full of fear is unacceptable. In my opinion Mr. lloyd should donate his EVMWD salary to the senior center to help the elderly pay for their sewer and water bill so they are not hungry or cold in the winter. He has no idea what it means to live from paycheck to pay check hoping you have enough money to pay for your perscriptions. Poor Poor Mr. LLoyd . Mr. LLoyd needs a kick in the ASS right out the door because so far he is a LIAR! And if this makes your day your sick.

Anonymous said...

Correct me if I'm wrong but you think elected officials should do the public's bidding and I don't agree. Sure we select them based on larger issues like LEAPS, conservative or liberal politics but I think the details should be left to their own discretion. I think we elect them to think for themselves, avoid corruption and use the power of the office for the good of the public. I don't want a puppet in office who forms an opinion based upon a public survey. That's playing it safe.Picture a weather vane spinning with each gale force of wind, or hot air, whichever you prefer. You become dizzy just watching these types of politicians try to keep up with whims of the people. They get so turned around that they can't remember what their stance is on a given day.(Think of some of our past and current illustrious leaders who shall remain nameless) Now you'll bring up Chris Hyland who voted against LEAPS or the exclusion of LEAPS in the budget every chance she got and you're right, the details and her constituents wishes were in sync. But, that was her style and other people might have a different approach to the same goal. We get the fact that you are against LEAPS. Has Lloyd switched to a pro-LEAPS position? I don't think so. So why attack someone who is still on your side? You are entitled to your opinion and arguing with you doesn't make my day. But ranting at Lloyd and his wife just makes your argument less credible. And you're right. Your comments were incredibly mean. You also skewered me and I am probably asking for it a second time by even responding to you. But go ahead and have the last word. I'm done.

Anonymous said...

If you ask a politition a question they find excuses to dance around the issue and never answer it. You answered me like a true politition.In your case it was more offensive to me than the normal ranting because your trying to justify your lack of action. Im done with you too because your in denial and your rationalizing your cowardice and that makes me very angry. I guess you have to play these games with yourself in order to live with yourself if not you probably couldn't stand to see your reflection in the mirror in the morning. I understand the psychology behind your behaviour but I cant bother with you anymore because your so typical. Keep collecting that check Mr LLoyd. I know your not going to do anything MR. LLOYD EVERYONE DOES. iF YOU HAD COURAGE AND SINCERITY AND INTEGRITY YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE SOMETHING WHICH SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT HAVE ALREADY PASSED. WE UNDERSTAND MR. LLOYD SPIN IT AROUND AND AROUND A MILLION WAYS MR. LLOYD AND WHAT COMES UP MR LLOYD IS THAT YOUR A COWWWWWWWW WARD!

Anonymous said...

I would also like to say Mr. LLoyd you should be ashamed of yourself for comparing your self to Chris Hyland. She's 77 years old and she exposed so much corruption and helped others not on the water board to expose corruption. At your age if you did a quarter of what Chris Hyland did you could have already have made a substantial difference. You dont want them to treat you like they treated her your a coward. Chris Hyland at 77 has mor courage in her little finger than you have within your whole being and she made a huge difference. What do you do Mr. LLoyd. You send out e mails to those much smarter than yourself that could help you make a difference in the corruption that state THIS BOARD IS DOING EVERYTHING TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY TO BE SURE THINGS ARE SAFE AND FAIR TO THE PUBLIC. I would say your arrogant but I dont think you are YOUR STRICTLY A COWARD, AND ITS OBVIOUS TO ALL YOUR ALSO DECEITFUL.

Anonymous said...

iF YOUR IDEAS OF WHAT A PUBLIC OFFICIAL SHOULD DO MR. LLOYD SHOULD NOT REFLECT WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS YOU SHOULD DO THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE PROMISES TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOUR NOT GOING TO CARRY OUT. AT THIS POINT MR LLOYD YOU ARE THE MOST DISGUISTING PERSON ON THAT BOARD.

Anonymous said...

I would like to add my two cents to Mr. LLoyd or defender of he. It is very corrupt to hike up rates 96% when EVMWD continues to spend dollars on the LEAPS project while Mr. LLoyd sits there. Eloquent speech Mr. LLoyd or defender of thee. Weather vanes spinning out of control how poetic, but whats spinning out of control is water and sewer rates you idiot. Its also very interesting how you totaly left out the eledrly that may now have to choose between soup and cracker or heat due to your 20 dollar add to there already stretched limited finances. DENIAL IS A VERY POWERFUL DEFENSE MECHANISM IT HELPS SUSTAIN US AND HELP US TO CONTINUE ON.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Loyd lives in fear of being treated like Chris Hyland, so he uses her as an excuse to do nothing. EVMWD spent 3,000,000 dollars on leaps a project that is NOT financially viable. Mr. Loyd knows this but makes no mention to the public EVMWD continues to spend rate payers money on the LEAPS project. The person that refuses to face reality and defends Loyd states we elect officials to prevent corruption and use their power for the good of the public. Mr. Loyd sits there and says nothing when rates are raised unfairly 96%. What has Loyd done that is fair or good for the public. Im all ears. If a person is so terrified of being criticized or fears confrontation, they should not run for an elected position. Perhaps he was made fun of as a child and has great fears about confrontation or critiscism. Only Mr. Loyd knows. But we see nothing from Mr. Loyd but fear so dont expect his constituents to be happy.

Anonymous said...

this is the reality i know.Lloyd volunteered his time for 5 years to get wildomar parks passed. the minute he took office the district tried to shut him up about leaps. he wrote to ferc and asked them to explain their inconsistincies in the eis. he would never abandon wildomar cityhood. you hear all sorts of stuff about people but try to give them the benefit of the doubt. i dont think Lloyd thought running for EVMWD seat was going to be a picnic so he isnt a coward. people have reason to be upset about the rate hikes. things arent out in the open 3.5 mil is out the door and they have to pay more money for water that is suspect. has anyone talked to him and asked him why he voted for the rate increase. did he know williams was going to vote no.

Anonymous said...

Why did Mr. loyd state he was going to clean up EVMWD. when statements like this are made reform is expected. I think Mr. Loyd is learning its not as easy as he thought it would be. Reform takes courage. Mr. Loyd may not be a coward, but its obvious he dosen't have what it takes to clean up EVMWD. He led us to believe he did.He should be ashamed of himself for pretending to be this big go getter thats going to reform EVMWD. Many people are dissapointed. To bad Chris Hylands not up there Mr Loyd might not be as scared if he had another person on the board that demonstrated some courage and dedication toward reform. I realize now how important she was because she reached out to people now we have no one.

Anonymous said...

Chris Hyland is one of a kind and people arelucky she hasn't gotten fed up and washed her hands of EVMWD and the city she never gives up. Otherpeople find their own way to make the changes she made and they do. It would be hard to do if you think you are all alone in the fight but itsd worth it anyway.

Anonymous said...

The reason Hyland never gives up is because she knows EVMWD is wasting rate payers money in the millions. She exposed the fact these board members have been using LEAPS as an excuse to pay themselves for leaps meetings not on the matrix for years. Not only the leaps meetings board members were paying themselves for whatever they felt like paying themselves for. The public has no clue how corrupt this group is. I have pages of meetings and dates. From 11/11/01-12/15/05 Wicke anderson and williams used rate payers money to pay themselves a total of $10,274 dollars to attend LEAPS meetings. Its an excuse to supplement their incomes. The biggest abuser of rate payer money regarding LEAPS williams. This continued on in 2006 and continues today. Mr. Loyd knows the project is dead. A person that is intrested in reform or exposing corruption would expose every dollar spent on the LEAPS to any newspaper that would listen. Mr. Loyds constituents would be aware and informed by Mr. Loyd so they would be at meetings to voice their concern on how the board has wasted and continues to waste rate payer money. The clean up EVMWD web site would continue to inform Mr. Loyds constituents of his progress. Ofcourse Mr. Loyd could not do this but others could. The public has a right to information, especially when its rate payers money. Mr. Loyd should investigate every number or fact placed in front of him, instead he trusts the financial administrator who obviously is not trustworthy. Checking and double checking investigating thats reform. BEn Wicke paid himself 157.50 to make a phone call. 1/22/01. meetings on the Matrix are the only meetings board members should be paid for. Ben Wicke paid himself a total of $6413.68 cents. These are meetings not on the matrix so this is money he should pay back. Its stealing plain and simple. Over the years wicke went to many lift station meetings in Canyon Lake the residents think he's great they have no idea hes stealing and geeting paid 191 and 300 dollars a pop to meet with him. Many of the problems he as well as williams involved themselves in should have been taken care of by staff. Williams wicke anderson have all been taking for years. So many elected officials are cowards. Your right Chris Hyland is one of a kind. the kind Loyd is not, Heres the type loyd is BETTER THAN NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

I read the comments and would like to know what changes if any Mr. Loyd is making? His campaign promise to get elected was to clean up EVMWD. In order to do this he must have some goals in mind. What are they? Why did he raise rates 96%, rates may need to be raised but not that high. Why didn't he fight for his constituents?

Anonymous said...

best way to find out is to hear it from him. ask him. keep asking him until you understand his reasoning.even if you dont agree with his logic at least you'll know what he was thinking and he"ll know you disagree. i would think thats fair

Anonymous said...

New type of real estate scam emerges is the headlines in the Californian today 6-3-07. They should investigate Phil Williams in his real estate deals according to rumor. This along with the money he absconds with at EVMWD will make a real headline. But then Ben Wicke is even a big absconder of rate payer money at EVMWD so he should make the headlines.

Anonymous said...

Wicke was paid 157 dollars to talk on the phone. I guess in his grandiose delusions of grandeur he thinks he's a lawyer. Greedy little man no doubt abot it. The 6413 dollars is not the only money Wicke stole but I only have partial records up to 2005. Williams and Wicke are very unethical and greedy. I wont mention Anderson who was not re-elected. Her punishment is she now has to work for a living which will make her a better person maybe. Wicke and Williams paid themselves starting at 161 dollars to 2007 300 dollars to go to chamber dinners and socialize. The meal is paid for, imagine being so greedy and deceitful knowing full well chamber mixers are not on the matrix. Imagine now you pay yourself 300 dollarsto eat. Not only would I not be able to enjoy my food knowing that im stealing, I would also not be able to sleep I would lie awake wondering how I could be so greedy. Im not perfect but I dont steal. That is stealing and everyone in canyon lake has a right to know Ben Wicke has been stealing for years, and people in horsethief canyon have a right to know Phil Williams did the same.Yes they rationalize it but stealing is stealing. What is extremely pathetic about these individuals is that they took an oath to be honest and fair. Giving 3.5 million dollars away for a project that never had a chance. The manager allowed this. Its fun spending 3.5 mill right Mr. Morris . You get to be a big shot and travel 15 times a month at rate payers expensewine and dine the other big shots. No one even bothered to look at the numbers why ruin a good thing. Had you looked you would have known its a 150, million dollar a year loser. With this type of behaviour I suspect they knew but just didn't care. Starts small and greed grows. When god said money is the root of all evil he wasn't kidding. The abuse continues. These individuals take advantage when no one is looking but what they forget in their false sense of importance is god is watching all the time. I read the article New type of real estate scam emerges. People like real estate appraiser Todd Lackner are heros he stumbled onto something that looked suspicious and he researched it (TAKE NOTE MR. LLOYD) Mr. Lackner is now a mortage fraud INVESTIGATOR. He could have looked the other way not wanting to upset anyone but those with true integrity and honesty hate corruption to the point that they will not stop until the truth is told. A healthy anger takes over because they realize how many people are being hurt just because of selfish criminals that dont care about anyone else. It starts small chamber mixers and when they see they can get away with it the greed grows because greed is a sickness. EVMWDS greed sweeled to 3.5 million dollars and continues to grow. Our leaders in congress are being plucked out one by one for corruption based on greed. People like Mr. Lackner are heros in our world today. Peoplre like weber pinnow and hyland are a few of lake elsinores heros. Why because they keep trying and dont stop until their heard. I dont feel a need to talk to Mr. LLoyd because actions speak much louder than words. If a person feels Mr. Lackner should be tipped of regarding some possible illegal activity regarding Phil Williams than it should be done immediately and taken very seriously! With poor leaders in place our city will not thrive and prosper 3.5 mill is enough the bleeding needs to stop. I believe if the truth were know some on the board and members of staff would be in jail. Our children are dying in Iraq for our country. How can Ben Wicke pay himself 200 dollars to go to a flag raising ceremony its just inchomprehensible even if it was on the matrix I wouldn't pay myself for that. Wheres this mans honor for his country it makes one sick to think he would pay himself to go to a flag raising ceremony.

Anonymous said...

I'd also like to add that they all seemed like game show hosts to me.

Anonymous said...

can't stand those politicians

Anonymous said...

Their not supposed to be politicians. Their elected officials. This is not politics. These are fools and Mr. Loyd should know the difference from wrong and right. He should correct whats wrong. His actions show that wont be done. They look like a game show because their a bunch of fools that think their movie stars and never having had power or intelect they abuse what power they have.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the previous comment. Our rates are being raised 96% the highest in California history because EVMWD squandered 3.5 million to travel dine and throw money at a 2 man NO money company called Nevada Hydro. The board is upset because their complete ignorance and greed has been exposed and they all look like fools. The Leaps project is not financially viable and is dead. The board is angry and are using rate payers to make up the difference on all the money they have squandered and enjoyed and continue to waste. Instead of focusing on our water which we were warned is unsafe to drink they've been having a good time. The 3.5 mill should have gone into improving water quality which is what they should be focusing on not hydro power. EVMWD received many notices water quality was not up to standards before the public was aware. EVMWD allowed people to continue to consume the water not caring about anyone except themselves. EVMWD wants to get as much money as they can, so the travel and waste of rate payer money can continue. 3.5 million would have covered alot of repair and maintenance issues. Ronald Young the general manager took advantage of this greedy corrupt board. Can you guess why? Obviously he loves to travel and visit his friends in Washington DC.now and then okay but he grossly abuses travel and spends 4000 dollars in a month. Loyd sits there as this continues doing nothing. Loyd states those concerened regarding the abuse of money and unsafe water have little minds. Thats the snake we elected. As rate payers we have rights and we will see what the 3.5 million was spent on. The unfair rate hike only encourages those with integrity and honesty and a disdain of corruption to work harder and expose the wrong doing. EVMWD thinks their quite clever by not including the 3.5 million in the budget. Their reasoning the money will be paid back. How they gave money to two men that have no money how irresponsible and stupid, but you see they dont care their willing to take risks with rate payers money. All they have to do is raise rates and get it back Mr. John LLoyd agreed.

Anonymous said...

It was stated by the Water District attorney in writing that if the project did not go through --- EVMWD would write off the money. So Nevada Hydro loses nothing and we the ratepayers pay big time. That is why our water rates are going up.

Anonymous said...

EVMWD should be sued for focusing more on the LEAPS project than ensuring clean water standards are met. They have jeopardized the health of the cities residents by allowing them to drink unsafe water. When was EVMWD'S first warning. At this point all attention and money should have been focused on ensuring water quality standards were met. The attention continued to focus on LEAPS. Why should rate payers have to make up for the money EVMWD wasted. I dont think people are aware this is an unfair hike in rates. The residents should know this is the highest rate hike in ca. history and that EVMWD wasted 3.5 million dollars that will not be paid back. Its time for a march and a que-tam law suit. EVMWD has spent ten years on this project. One excuse the board comes up with to raise rates is the pipes are ancient ,one board member stated some are 100 years old. 3.5 million should have gone to water and sewer pipes, then we might have had a fair rate hike instead of a corrupt hike by exposed angry board members. It is so irresponsible what this board has done. Spending money on LEAPS when the city has 100 year old pipes. No wonder our water is not meeting standards imagine what coatings could be in 100 year old pipes. How disguisting. The board has been negligent greedy and out of control. Mr. LLOYD should have looked at the bigger picture before voting for this unfair rate hike. WHEN MR. LLOYD WAS INFORMED WE WERE ANGRY ABOUT THE RATE HIKES AND THE WASTE OF RATE PAYER MONEY, HIS COMMENT IN AN E MAIL WAS WE HAVE LITTLE MINDS AND HE HAS NO TIME FOR US. IMAGINE HIS MIND, UNABLE TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE AND MAKE A CORRERCT and more importantly fair DECESION. HIS BRAIN MUST BE MIS-WIRED OR LAZY. SOME THINK HE'S AFRAID. IT DOSEN'T MATTER WHAT THE REASON IS. WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG! THEIR IS NO REASON TO SPEAK TO MR. LLOYD WRONG IS WRONG. TALK IS CHEAP ACTIONS ARE WHAT COUNT! HIS INACTION SAYS IT ALL.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Back as far as l993 EVMWD received citation for water failing to meet the primary drinking water standards by the Department of Health Services, Drinking Water Field Operations. The latest being July 27, 2006.

Anonymous said...

There's no money in providing good water or sewer service.

Anonymous said...

This board and staff is no better than the shit and scum stuck in our 100 year old water pipes and the crap in our water that they could care less about that people unknowingly continue to drink. Now anger takes energy so im not wasting mine. Its time to expose these corrupt selfish people that are poisioning the public with lead, arsenic and a variety of other toxic compounds that are in our water. Enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely one thing for certain if your a crook your gonna get caught.sooner or later it catches up to you and you pay the price in one way or another so party on because orderves are not served in jail even the white collar jails you can go and play cards with old friends.

Anonymous said...

what unsafe levels exist in our water show results.

Anonymous said...

What to make changes at EVMWD

RECALL RECALL PHIL WILLIAMS

Then Guggy ----

WICKE who lives off EVMWD on days of service money will expose himself by his behind the scenes deals.

Anonymous said...

Where the hell is edit got too! i dont see her at any of the meetings or at any of the local function. we need to put together a group of people to stay on top of things or were going to get walked over. You would think the city and the school district would have some say so on this rate hike since they most likely are EVMWD biggest customers, with all of the groth in this area i find it hard that they need to raise rates.

Anonymous said...

Oh my God ......Kris Anderson running for the Little Water District. With her companion Phil Williams being the one that attends their monthly meetings for EVMWD --- I feel sorry for those rate payers who deal with the little water district and Kris Anderson and Phil Williams running it. You can be sure Williams will be doing it in the background with his partner Kris Anderson. Better get out there and make sure she is not elected.

Anonymous said...

everyone knows Chris Hyland if you want to get a group together let it be known> I would be willing to pass out flyers to expose kris anderson, she just misses the easy money she collected from EVMWD. She misses stealing with phill. Records show anderson and williams attended their own made up leaps meetings in order to steal quite frequently. Heres an example according to records. 1/202 anderson and williams 165.68 1/10/08 165.38, 1/15/02, 1?16?02 165.38 1/18/02 165.38, 1/29/02, 165.38 2/4/02, 165.38, 2/5/02165, 2/9/02 165.38, 2/12/02 165.32, 3/27 02., These dates and this money involved wicke williams and anderson. This bitch misses the easy money and stealing. get angry people this is accurate information you see right before your eyes the stealing. just days apart and they boldly stold for many years and williams and wicke continue to steal today. Lloyd just watches so dont count on him. Im busy like everyone but I will make time. We cant allow anderson to be elected. She and Wicke were the instigators of Leaps from the start. She wasted millions of rate payer dollars on leaps. She claims to understand numbers, but the only ones she understands is the numbers that involve stealing from innocent rate payers. the examples are only a small example of the stealing that went on. We have to get motivated. Where are all the people that marched against leaps come out and come back we need you.

Anonymous said...

Numbers don't lie a few people do then they get CAUGHT!

Anonymous said...

Phil Williams isat it again. He has recruited George Bloomfield of Mission Viejo to run for the Little Water District. Bloomfield is the one that one the contract for the Lake Elsinore Dream Extreme logo. MISSION VIEJO IS WHERE HE LIVES. Oh, yes he has some lots next to Harvey Ryan - Director EVMWD and Michael O'Neal on the City Planning Committee and of course the unethical Kris Anderson what is is ulterior motive? Got to believe another crooked deal like LEAPS. Citizens in Lakeland Village and Country Club Heights you better get out and VOTE AGAINST THESE PEOPLE because they want EVMWD to take you over and raise your rates. Get busy start campaigning against these trouble makers. That Phil Williams has got to be put out of office.

Anonymous said...

The Good Ol' Boys are running

Anonymous said...

EVMWD according to their own contract have to have documented, and itemized , every penny spent on LEAPS, and this information is available to the public according to the freedom of information act. If they are unwilling to show these records then their in trouble plain and simple. We all have a right to see who the cancelled chercks were made out to and what every penny was spent on. Mr. LLoyd feels an audit should be done now lets see if he has the integrity and drive to pursue the issue. He has to get the ball rolling by looking at records and showing there is a need for an audit. Is he really a coward we'll see. Mr LLoyd needs to realize this is not p[olitics and its not his job to protect a wasteful foolish board. His job is to reform and expose what is wrong in a very direct honest manner. He is there for his constituents. I think Mr. Loyd is very scared!Regardless of his fear he ran on the promise of reform. He also stated in his campaign he would not raise rates. EVMWD continues to waste money on LEAPS and Mr. LOYD agreed to raise rates. We can all hope he's a man of integrity but from my experience with reform if one has no courage nothing will get done, so perhaps Mr. Loyd is not a crook but without courage he will be ineffective. AND UNFORTUNATELY USUALLY IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK ITS A DUCK.

Anonymous said...

First of all Mr. Lloyd does not seem to have any guts. He is to afraid they will treat him like they did Chris Hyland which in the end God will punish and expose them.

Secondly, EVWMD, Wick, Williams and Anderson were the ones that insisted they hide the records of the LEAPS project. Anderson and Williams sat in Ad Hoc meetings and never related or reported what was going on. Did you ever ask Williams how much interest he has in the LEAPS project or whazt they have promised as far as money goes because real estate is at the pits now....and will Anderson take over the accounting the LEAPS project for Nevada Hydro??????? INTERESTING QUESTION.

Anonymous said...

Someone shoulsd go through the 1997 agreement and request a list of all of the relevant documents for each important paragraph. Don't need a list for section 8 might be a good start to ask for the progress reports Neveda Hydro is supposed to be keeping. The expenditure reports could be a good place too. The public has a right to klnow.

Anonymous said...

Anderson Williams and Wicke are trying to act like business tycons. Its typical behaviour for People of their caliber to demonstrate this type of poor business sense. Its painful to watch and its costing rate payers money. Their eaisly led into these boondoggle messes because their not smart individuals to begin with. Their eaisly fooled, and theirs plenty of undesirable people out that know this. Im sure they swoon at Mr. Podrowskis feet, why you ask; because he's a lawyer in Washington D.C. Never having had power or intelligence they swoon over him as if he were a movie star, and this includes Ronald Young the manager of EVMWD,. I know they've given Mr. Podrowski alot of money. Im sure he thinks their stupid, but its tempting to take money when its being handed to you. Remember now they've spent 3.5 million dollars in give aways. This makes them feel important. Their treated like big shots because their giving away money they took an oath to protect. When your handing out 3.5 million your going to be treated like your a big wheel, and if your dumb like phil anderson wicke ryan and young the fantasy becomes reality. Its going to be fun to watch reality come crashing down on these individuals. We should have no mercy for those who put their own greed and selfishness before those they took an oath to be fair to. Those meaning the public, you see they have been forgotten and are not a part of the fantasy this board and staff live in. Their foolish and they will be held accountable, and that is a promise. This board and staff have been fooled and misled much like children would be. Its pathetic but it makes one angry. They have access to money their eaisly conned and the end result is LEAPS. An excuse to spend and spend and waste money needed for 100 year old pipes. Mr. Brown their attorney seriously needs to be investigated by the bar association. He needs to be reported. He runs the meetings for these fools, and they feel protected by him. He encourages the unethical practices and abuse of money. He has advised the board and staff its perfectly legal to leave 3.5 million out of the budget, and he knows that money will never be paid back. Our tax dollars pay his salary and this city has a right to be represented by an honest ethical lawyer. I encourage everyone to report him the more the better, and you should know each and every report must by law be investigated. 3.5 million which continues to grow must be stopped. People in the thousands especially those on limited budgets will suffer because of the greed and selfishness of this board and staff.

Anonymous said...

The last comment has a good idea but do you really think they are going to hand
over NH papers just like that? Mmmmmm....nope dont think so this is a shell game
folks but thabnk you for playing. The real question people need to ask is WHY EVMWD
dosent have certain information or documents after doling out 3.5 mil and counting
to NH? THREE POINT FIVE MILLION OF OUR DOLLARS POURING INTO THE POCKETS OF LAWYERS
BOARD MEMBERS LOBBYISTS PR FIRMS NEVADA HYDRO AND GOD KNOWS WHO ELSE ALL IN THE
NAME OF LEAPS. DID WE LEAVE ANYONE OUT>

Anonymous said...

CROOKS ALWAYS GET CAUGHT. If you read the paper you will see how many have been caught and it's all MONEY. How soon will Williams be exposed? Question: has Wicke, Anderson, and Williams paid back their days of service that they owed back of ratepayers money? It is just like LEAPS they don't divulge that information. I remember in newspaper articles there was a lot of questions regarding that situation if I remember one of the Directors Hyland paid theirs back. According to those articles in the paper Wicke seemed to be the worst about taking days of service that he should not have taken ----- then why don't they put a stop to using our ratepayer money for their pleasures also - STOP LEAPS spending hold Williams - Anderson - Wicke and Ryan and Lloyd responsible for spending our rate payer money on these frivolous schemes. Remember CROOKS GET CAUGHT.

Anonymous said...

yes people will suffer secondary to their greed and selfishness, and you forgot their absolute arrogance and most importantly their STUPIDITY. AND YES I DO THINK THEY WILL HAND OVER DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. Dont be so quick to give up your rights and believe you have none. This attitude supplies EVMWD with endless power.

Anonymous said...

Its EVMWDS job to get what is asked for perioud. Do I really think this do I really think that. WHO CARES WHAT I THINK IF THEY DONT GET THE INFORMATION REQUIRED BY LAW THEIR IN TROUBLE.

Anonymous said...

The CROOKS Wicke and Williams had the Nevada Hydro group come in at the Study Session on Wednesday and nothing was on the agenda regarding the LEAPS project but they wanted to make their lying statements so the rest of the Board would agree with them on the project. They had a pack and stated that California P U C is going to bring forth the project and they spent 2 hours promoting the LEAPS project with various outsiders like Morgan Stanley, etc. Unfortunately, they do not take minutes at these meetings and it was not on the agenda so how would the public know they were going to be there and tell all the lies they could to the Board and Young who eats up what they have to say. RECALL RECALL RECALL WILLIAMS - WICKE who are behind this whole crooked deal. But someone stated a previous comment CROOKS ALWAYS GET CAUGHT. Its time to write to the govenor and tell him to take reins on the PUC because there are too many agencies and citizens who do not want this crooked project. How can the people stand back and let these crook decided for thousands of rate payers spending their money on a scam?

Anonymous said...

This needs to be reported to the newspaper.This is deceitful and wrong those two are in it for their own reasons MONEY and they could careless about this city. Wicke and Williams behind the scenes with Nevada Hydro. I dont know how wicke closes his eyes at night. At his age if I were him I would be afraid I might die in my sleep and wake up in hell. His punishment millions of dollars he cant get his hands on and all the things he could spend the money on but cant. Wicke is not going to pay back the 6 thousand plus dollars he owes. In his false sense of importance he thinks he and williams deserve to be paid for all the meetings not on the matrix. He thinks he and williams and anderson are above the law. The filthy three are stealing from rate payers. What does loyd do; you guessed it ''nothing.'' He thinks its more important to protect EVMWD than to inform the public on the status of the current reform he should be instituting. That folks is what he should be doing but he is not initiating anything because he's a cowardly lion. Give a guy a thousand votes and suddenely he thinks he's the president sitting in the white house for goodness sakes! He's caught up in protecting EVMWD and being a polititian instead of an elected officialthat ran his campaign on reform and not raising rates to unfair levels. Mr. Loyd is not going to clean up EVMWD any better than he cleans up his own beard. His constituents should have been informed and at the study session with nevada hydro along with the Californian news reporter. Sneaking around behind the scenes not informing the public is what Williams and Wicke do best and this is unethical and shows the have no integrity. There two skanky slimy individuals, and the serpent will bite them both when they least expect it. Things are happening behind the scenes so try not to get to discouraged and watch the papers. Let everyone know what these dishonest people are up to in every way you can. Good job to everyone that understands the importance of exposing these selfish individuals in every way possible.

Anonymous said...

Just goes to show you how DUMB they are. Don't let them get away with it- cast a wide net and CATCH THOSE CROOKS ALONG WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING BY AND DOING NOTHING WHILE THEY WATCH THESE SHENANIGANS TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY DESPITE THEIR SWORN ALLEGIANCE TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC. THE SILENT WALLFLOWERS ARE GUILTY OF FAILING TO TAKE ACTION WHEN THEY SEE DECEIT AND CORRUPTION TAKING PLACE UNDER THEIR NOSES. The publics memory is short but store the facts away until the proper time to unveil them during campaigns for re-election and higher office. REMIND THE VOTERS OF THEIR LEADERS LACK OF COURAGE TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST THESE WRONGDOINGS AND HAMMER AWAY AT THEM DURING ELECTION TIME. VOTERS DON"T LIKE WIMPS. THEY WANT STRONG PEOLPE OF IN+TEGRITY. ITS EASY TO WAX POETIC WHEN CUTTING A RIBBON BUT QUITE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL WHEN YOU TAKE A STAND THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY UPSET THE SOCALLED LEADERS AND POWERFUL PEOPLE. LIVE DANGEROUSLY AND TAKE A STAND FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE. YOU'LL SLEEP BETTER AND BE WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU WITH THE HONOR OF BEING THEIR VOICE. THEY TRUSTED YOU AND YOU CANT LET THEM DOWN. THE CORRUPT ONES CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FAR GONE DOWN THE WRONG PATH. THEY CANT BE SAVED. THEIR CONSCIENCE IS GONE IF THEY EVER HAD SUCH A FEATURE IN THE FIRST PLACE. ITS LIKE A TOWER OF BABEL IN THEIR OWN BRAINS AND THEY CAN NO LONGER DECIPHER BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG. RIGHT NOW THEY HAB+VE THE CHOICE TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT IF THEY DONT,SIMPLY NAIL THEM AND ALL OF THEIR BUDDIES. SHOW NO MERCY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEIR SLIME BACK INTO PUBLIC OFFICE. THEYRE PLAYING CHECKERS AND WE HAVE TO TURN THE GAME INTO A CHESS MATCH. THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT HIT THEM. THEY WILL LOSE IN THE END BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE UNETHICAL SIDE AND THATS A LOSING HAND NO MATTER WHAT THEY THINK. LOTS OF PEOPLE HATE CORRUPTION AND WON'T REST UNTIL IT IS EXPOSED. WHETHER IT HAPPENS NOW OR LATER IT DOESNT MATTER BUT IT WILL HAPPEN AND TAKE OTHER INNOCENTS DOWN ALONG WITH THEM.

Anonymous said...

AND IAGREE GOOD JOB TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HARD TO BRING DOWN THIS HOUSE OF CARDS. THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

Anonymous said...

Something that should bother many citizens regarding the City of Lake Elsinore, Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District and Assemblyman Jeffries office. All are monopolized by the O'Reilly Public Relations firm. Their propganda is unethical based on the fact that they certainly do not print pro and con and that is a proven fact with LEAPS.

In Jeffries office he has a former O'Reilly employee working for him why??????? does he also hire them to do his PR??? Do the three public offices meet to work out a plan that would be beneficial to unethical situations by propoganda that would fool the citizens and ratepayers??????? They sure did it with the LEAPS project flyers - what should have been pro and con turned out to be a bunch lies for EVMWD and their LEAPS project - in other words they did not tell the ratepayers both sides. Now is the time for the citizens to speak out the City of Lake Elsinore, EVMWD each get different PR firms and not share in a monopoloy. Is there anyone serving in public offices or committees that work for O'Reilly????

Anonymous said...

Buckley used to work O'Reilly but had to quit because of conflict of interest - a former city councilwoman made sure of that I understand. Question floating does he do free lance work for O'Reilly or just makes sure O'Reilly gets the business in the area. Word has it one of O'Reilly's employees is running either for city council or some city commission. CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Rumor has it there are several O'Reilly plants working in surrounding cities. When will these people begin to learn to be honest? Time to expose

Anonymous said...

Wicke and Williams knew nevada hydro would be at the study session. I wouldn't be surprised if Loyd also knew. If he didn't he should be very angry and speaking out against the unfairness of withholding information the public has a right to know about ,so they can attend and voice their opinions. We have a right to question all the lies Nevada Hydro dishes out. This meeting with Nevada Hydro was not on the publics agenda of the study session however; Nevada Hydro shows up to the study session with a panel of 12 people. Now Loyd understands a big discussion on LEAPS is going to begin. He should have immediately said the public is not aware of this it was left off the publics agenda and I feel we should reschedule. This man lacks integrity without a doubt. We wouldn't want to inconvience the important men in ties now would we mr Loyd. Why gosh no! In MY FANTASY WORLD which i've resorted to to keep my sanity Mr. Loyd has integrity and he goes on to say "I made a campaign promise to my constituents that I would do all I could to stop the unfairness and secrecy regarding LEAPS meetings." A man of integrity would have displayed a very healthy anger. It was his campaign promise to stop the secret meetings and let the public know when LEAPS will be discussed. He should have made a huge deal about how he felt this is unfair, but he didn't. This was a tactict to keep the public away. Wick and williams have been doing this for years, and collecting money to boot while having these meetings amongst themselves. Once again Mr. LLOYD let everyone down. Mr. Loyd is not thinking about his constituents as first priority like Chris Hyland always did. He seems to get caught up in men with suits and ties. He like so many foolish people assume their important people. If he were smart he wouldnt become so overwhelemed with the suit and ties. He's not quick or smart enough to see the big picture until about a week later after he has let his constituents down. Remember the cowardly lion he was even scared of himself. Mr. Loyd has access to courageous extremely smart people to guide him in the right direction, one quick call and he wouldn't miss a beat. Mr. Loyd these are not the presidents men you are not in the white house, your surrounded by a bunch of crooks that are playing you for a fool. Williams is the biggest SHISTER i've seen in a long time. Wake up Mr. Loyd call get advice just excuse yourself for a minute and make the call. please allow others to help you. It's not a sign of weakness its a sign your intelligent. The article in the Californian is nothing but Nevada Hydros hype. What a joke a representative from Morgan Stanley is it the janitor how about a title. Its bogus bull shit. Please someone tell the CPUC two little shits one a drug addict with huge corneas lacking a pupil with fowl breath have decided your going to fund over 1.3 billion dollars oh add the 70 million to tear down the leaps project and a 100,000 a month to pay for the dried up water and last but not least add 50,000,000 for all the law suits the rich folks in the Cleveland forest will file their is a lawyer I saw on line that specializes in electromagnetic field law suits, he wins every million dollar case. We wont mention fire and death will we phil and wicke, your both going to burn in hell. Pleas no one worry about this bogus article. No facts no names no due diligence just nevada hydro trying in a desperate attempt to stir up news on this boondoggle 150 million dollar losing project. what a joke. To Nevada Hydro hyped up lies is the best they can try for and everyone knows when your desperate and failing what have you got to lose some publicity at this point is better than no publicity.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Lewanski one of the three men that call themselves the Nevada Hydro company is a drug addict. He has nerves of steal with a little help from his friend methamphetamine. He's chasing the dragon, and he's going to get burned. His drug of choice causes extreme euphoria and a sense that you can do anything you set your mind to. It also causes agressive agitated behaviour. Mr. Peter Lewanski demonstrated this style of behaviour in his dealings with CAISO. He attempted in many ways to intimidate CAISO. In his deluded drug intoxicated state he thought he could push around CAISO. He literally harassed CAISO. I read CAISOS responses to this sick man ,they barely maintained their professionalism in their answers to him. It was very clear they were extremely, extremely frustrated and angry. EVMWD has given this man huge sums of money. I've seen the billing its unbelievable. 100 grand nothing itemized, 250 grand and on and on and on. Drugs are expensive I imagine there's lots of extra money. EVMWD'S contract states all money has to be accounted for and that means itemized. EVMWD had better have it in writing that 3.5 mill will be paid back. I think its all Nevada Hydros Hype anyway but this should have been the first statement out of Mr. LLOYDS mouth along with the 70 mill it will cost to tear the project downn. Mr. Loyd needs to play the game with these idiots instead of sitting there thinking this is a big break thru in LEAPS. HOW STUPID. Phil Williams knows what type of man Mr. Lewenski is so does wicke and anderson. Hes a greedy dishonest man with dollar signs in his head and nothing else except ofcourse his next drug inhalation. If Williams Wicke And Anderson weren't so greedy this project would never have gotten this far. 300 dollars two times a month to discuss LEAPS with Mr. Brown they had no incentive to stop it. 600 extra dollars a month is alot of money, and they relied on it for years. Whats scary and sad is Mr. LEWANSKI is smarter than these three with all their heads together. But dont worry the drugs are gonna getch ya little fella. By the way many do not know Mr. Lewenski is a midget or perhaps a borderline midget. He's very short and he has to look up at you with his pupils covering his whole cornea. His eyes look black. He truly looks like a demon. If you think im kidding wait until you see him. Very creeeeeeepy!

Anonymous said...

I just heard there are two former ENRON employees now employed by Nevada Hydro.......man will the crooks never stop. They have to be caught. Heard Williams and Wicke were like little kids agreeing with the Nevada Hydro troops. At the Study Session on Wednesday - they conversed which is in violation of the Brown Act --- now we can turn them in because just didn't listen to the public comment they interinjected in controversy. Ho!

Anonymous said...

Nevada Hydro is in la la land. Shame on EVMWD for giving these idiots money and using LEAPS as an excuse to have meetings for cash and an excuse to travel. Phill Williams is a a jackass. He was quoted in the Californian as follows. June 22 2007. nctimes.com. "Its encouraging to see" Phil Williams a board member who has been supportive of the project said thursday "They're bringing a whole lot of money. For years people were saying , "your never going to get enough money." Hey Phil your a moron. I have your words in quotes. Everyone will now know you have found someone to finance this project and your happy about it. Now the people will know who is responsible for the destruction of Temescal canyon. It is confirmed by your own words moron that you are willing to risk our families health and safety! We now know who is responsible for making a few people rich at our expense. And you will be held responsible for the decreased value in our homes due to the towering power lines that studies show an increased incidence in cancers secondary to the electromagnetic fields especially in children the most innocent and vulnerable amongst us. The potential for a violent fire in many peoples back yard due to the fact firemen cant get near the power lines because of the risk of explosion so they must let the fire burn out of control. We hold you responsible Phill. Your willing to risk our lives for your own gain and by your own words all will know your proud of this. You Phil are a moron Ive laughed at your stupidity so many times, you are truly a fool. I dont think FERC will agree with the beady eyed midget. But I do thank you for your own words once again. Yes you will run again in 2008 but you wont win can you guess why you fool lets just say it has to do with your own words. Bye Phil have a nice day. I know I will!

Anonymous said...

Mr. LLoyd keep protecting Phil and the gang sitting their like a coward You are just as responsible when people die and suffer due to greed and evil. If you dont speak up everyone will be made aware your allowing this to happen right under your nose the big man thats going to clean up EVMWD.

Anonymous said...

Phil good job you found the men with the big wallets, another quote from the Californian from your stupid mouth. I forgot to thankyou for that moronic quote it will also come in handy. Wow Phil your with the big boys now, your one hell of a tycoon, no stopping you now. Keep thinking about those millions silly philly and dont worry soon that little trailer you live in will become a distant memory.

Anonymous said...

crooks bind with crooks --- Williams is good at finding partners.

Anonymous said...

Why can't the city get their minutes posted on their web site for 6 months?

Anonymous said...

EVMWD I know what your up to. I will say your worse then I ever imagined you to be!

Anonymous said...

EVMWD is secretly helping Nevada Hydro get only the power lines up because they will get money under the table. Wicke Williams and Anderson are crooks.I think Harvey Ryan is dense im not so sure he's a crook. The facts of the project and recent activities by the NVHC indicate, 1 the TNHC intend to begin TE/VS operations as quickly as possible and well in advance of the of the pumped storage component of the LEAPS project. 2 TNHC has only secured funding for the TE/VS component of the project, 3 TNHC realizes that the commision will terminate the LEAPS license if construction is not commenced on the dam within a specefied time. While TNHC has not made public statements which indicate this is their intent, the commision would be irresponsible and derelict in it's duties were it to just assume that LEAPS construction will be completed or even started after the TE/VS line is completed. On wednesday June 20th 2007 the TNHC made the following announcements at a public meeting at EVMWD. 1 Financing for the TE/VS portion of the LEAPS project has been arranged by Morgan Stanley, financing for the pumped storage portion of the project has not been arranged. It appears that Morgan Stanleys participation in financing the TE/VS portion of the LEAPS project is contingent upon issusance of the LEAPS license by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commiission. Such action must occur prior to PUC approval of the Sun Rise Power Link project currently anticipated to occur in January 2008. Pursuant to discussions with the California public utilities commission or PUC The NVHC co wants EVMWD to step down as lead agent under CEQA . The TNHC claimed that the PUC is willing to serve as lead agent and will complete the ceqa project on an accelerated schedule. Their is a sequence of events 1-5 that Nevada Hydro and EVMWD are counting on that are documented by lawyers and have been sent to FERC. Therefore the commission must take decisive action to ensure that the project does not proceed in this manner by imposing conditions on the LEAPS license Such conditions should be imposed pursuant to Section 10{H}{2}{b} of the federal power act which specefies that conduct which is not otherwise justified by the public intrest considering regulatory policies expressed in other applicable law, including but not limited to those contained in part II of this Act. shall be prevented or adequately minimized by means of conditions included in the license prior to its issuance. It is certainly not in the public intrest for the commission to issue water power project license which enables the license to avoid constructing the water power project and instead profitably operate a transmission grid asset. The commission is in fact compelled to by section 10{h}{2}{b} to impose adequate conditions which will ensure that the pumped storage component is completed before the TE/VS transmission line is built. The LEAPS project is 150 million dollare a year loser no one will ever invest in it. EVMWD continuest to party on in the name of LEAPS as they've done for 10 years wasting our money on travel dining site seeing and on and on. LLOYD knows this imagine how stupid he must be to just sit there and do nothing, it goes beyond cowardice he's a fool. Nevada Hydro is lying The PUC cannot do what TNHC says they can do. This project will never happen but it amazes me how Nevada Hydro continues to lie and sneak around the Laws that protect us from this type of corruption. Morgan Stanley will sneak around to if they think they can squeeze through a loop hole. To many lawyers have their eyes on every move. EVMWD and TNHC are not going to get their way. not this time not ever.

Anonymous said...

The grabbing hands grab all they can all for themselves after all its a competitive world.

Anonymous said...

The grabbing hands need to realize this is a very temporary world and they are here for a very short time, grabbing in a competitive world is a very shallow existence and short lived.

Anonymous said...

Grabbing hands that fits EVMWD quite well. Grabbing and taking what is not theirs is exactly what EVMWD lives to do. They believe in nothing so they will believe in anything, this way they can rationalize their stealing. Kris Anderson is going through withdrawls remember she stole money from evmwd for ten years in the name of LEAPS. Now she wants to run for a seat on EWD and current board members at EWD stated Phil Williams and Kris Anderson are crooks. Mrs Anderson must be frothing at the mouth she misses all that easy money and all tose 200 buck meetings with her man Phill. She stated in the paper she wants to help EWD bullshit. Look at all the money she wasted and stole from EVMWD in the name of LEAPS. She and Phill have another fucked up boondoggle plan in mind in their delusions of grandeur. Ya phil you and your girlfriend are going to take over the little water district. Go to hell!

Anonymous said...

I need some good ideas for a flyer. Kris Anderson is withdrawing she wants free money she's getting the shakes. The only thing she can think of is to fuck up EWD with filthy Phill, that will not be elected for another bout of stealing. Theres a good guy running against him who has already shown he's not a coward. We have to be careful LLoyd was a huge dissapointment.

Anonymous said...

If greedy hands were just greedy hands grabbing that would be one thing, and bad enough, but these greedy hands dont care about the safety of others. Their dangerous and disguisting living for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I am told that Phil Williams holds the most meetings to represent EVMWD at $191.00 per meeting - draws over $2,000 per month. I was just told one of the meetings he represents EVMWD is the EWD and that meeting this month lasted l2 minutes and he got $191.00 for that. The people you don't want to vote for to represent us at EWD (the little water district) NO NO NO NO on Jeff George, Kris Anderson and Bloomfield who lives in Mission Viejo. Yes Phil Williams and Kris Anderson are partners in crime. PHIL WILLIAMS NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT OF OFFICE. Carry your cameras with you and take pictures of those worried face expressions of Phil Williams at Board Meetings. Same with Kris Anderson catch them off guard. Put out some of nasty pictures like they did Chris Hyland during the last election and we don't need Issa's professional photographer. We can do it - I am going out now and get a camera and take the time to go to their meetings.

Anonymous said...

Phil attends city council meetings and stays 1/2 hour. I watched him leave he never came back. He's a greedy bastard. I will be passing out flyers. Kris Anderson will not get elected. She's a bipolar bitch with buggy eyes. Shes a greedy bitch and a liar. If I have to do it alone I will. She is willing to jeoparidize peoples lives for her own gain, and my conscience wont allow this.

Anonymous said...

Gugliepiggie is on her way to Washington, DC again to attend the Calfiornai Association of Sanitation agencies (CASA) to what study about the SHIT that goes into our drinking water. What is her scientific knowledge of toxics. Spending our ratepayer money flying here and there for what she has no idea of anything pertaining to Water or the Water District. I understand in the last 15 years she never came to a water meeting or possibly even longer. Oh, yes they are sending Gugliepiggie on these trips so she will vote the Williams wants her to. I talked to former Board member Hyland she was never asked to go to Sacramento - Washington, D.C. to attend any type of water business - know why????? Only one she was even allowed to attend was ACWA and then they tried to stop that.All because she would not vote the way they wanted her to. Also the fact that she exposed their improprieties was a sore spot with them. Now that she is gone they get away with going to a meeting staying 5 or 15 minutes and get paid $191.00. I have had many conversations with her and believe you me people there is a problem at EVMWD. Gugliempiggie is as unethical as they come - liars. Eventually they all get caught.

Anonymous said...

Heck, if we can't trust them to stay for a whole meeting, why should we trust them with multi-milion dollar water board business? At the very least, someone should dock their pay. Since the honor system obviously isn't WORKING with some people, here are a couple of suggestions to keep them honest: a time clock at public meeting places and they can insert a time card to prove when they arrive and leave a meeting, or have the board secretary or city clerk initial a note verifying the water board member's times of arrival and departure at meetings. Emergencies come up and are understandable, but a person with a conscience automatically docks their own hours to reflect any discrepancies. Receiving money that isn't earned is simply stealing. You can't rationalize it any other way.

Anonymous said...

they dont get paid by the hour. its per meeting. but i agree they shouldnt get the full amount of compensation. like someone said before if we cant trust them to stay for a full meeting where else are they cutting corners? it aint in the travel or the leaps expenses we can see that. what a waste of money.

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows guglio lugio UGLYamono is a bought and paid for whore. I discount her because as you said she never attended a water board meeting. She was pulled out of an out house toilet where she lived, and she is simply in it for whatever she can get. Phil and Kris Anderson And that horrid Wicked Wicke stick it up your assit and hide it are not going to share with her. But thats ok with her, she'll take the scraps for now that are thrown to her. She is a bought and paid for political whore. She was scraped of the bottom of the out house toilet by her friend Ben Wicked red kneck wicke. Bought and paid for by EVMWD. The money given to her by Nevada Hydro was money EVMWD gave Nevada Hydro to give to her to trash Chris Hyland by putting up signs as big as a jacuzzi calling cHRIS hYLAND A LIAR and other flyers placing a witch hat on her. so therfore rate payers money that should be used for the 100 year old water pipes and the contaminated water The folks in Lake Elsinore mix with their infants baby formula 8 to 10 times a day was spent on a corrupt political whore. She already sold her soul to the devil a long time ago. Hopefully she'll get mad and rat out the rest when she realizes shes not included in the major stealing that has gone on for 10 years and continues to this day while Mr. LLoyd sits there looking scared and foolish impotent and frozen with fear. Where's our audit Mr Loyd you coward get something done. To much homework for you. Your collecting over 1900 dollars a month lazy ass. Announce to everyone what EVMWDS up to instead of sitting there while they make a fool of you, and take advantage of your severe weakness and fear. Mr. Loyd couldn't even get the board to change the meeting time to one people could actually attend, so an audit is out of the question. As far as Mr. Loyd goes were screwed.in HIS MIND Hes the president in the white house and phil is the vice president he must protect the boards reputation because IN REALITY HE'S TO WEAK TO CHANGE IT.

Anonymous said...

Rumors are flying all over the city that Phil Williams has just taken a job with Nevada Hydro. Is it true he left his real estate Broker position at Century 21???????? Sounds like we better start checking this situation out could it be something illegal for his reason leaving the firm. Question why - what for and when?

Anonymous said...

Its all out war Mr. LLoyd. You will lose any chance of exposing the corruption at EVMWD if you dont treat this like a war. It's you against them. You have back up more than you know. Your not dealing with professional honest people. Your dealing with individuals that do not put peoples well being before money. This includes children and the elderly. Im sure you have accomplishments in your life, but now a chance to do something great. GOD HAS HIS EYES ON THIS ONE JUST LIKE ALL THINGS, BUT THIS IS A CHANCE FOR YOU TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR GOD AND MAN KIND. IM PRAYING GOD WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH AND WISDOM TO DO WHAT YOU PROMISED THE PEOPLE YOU WOULD DO ITS NEVER TO LATE TO TRY. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE IN THIS LIFE CAN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD AND SAY I DID EVERYTHING I COULD DO TO EXPOSE THE CORRUPTION AT EVMWD. CAN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD AND SAY THOSE WORDS. PEOPLES LIVES AND WELL BEING ARE AT STAKE SO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO NOW TO PROTECT THEM BEFORE YOU STAND BEFORE GOD AND BEFORE ITS TO LATE.

Anonymous said...

Is the planned civic center a Diamond in the rough? The City Council would like us to believe the planned civic center is going to be the focal point of the community. Yet the purpose of a civic center is a place for the city government to do business and in this day in age most business is done on the information highway not in person.Will this project end up a boondoggle like the Diamond costing the people millions of dollars.

Anonymous said...

Mr Young the manager of EVMWD wrote an article in the community forum about the wonderful job EVMWD is doing recycling water. He failed to mention the money laundering thats gone on for years. EVMWD funnels money to Nevada Hydro and Nevada Hydro gives money back to employees in the form of checks. You forgot to mention that you ugly old bastard. Mr. Young was fired from his last job due to shenannigans and EVMWD couldnt wait to hire him he's their type. Now over 3.5 million of rate payers money has been spent on LEAPS. You cant call LEAPS a project because CAISO said no way, and FERC will do the same because LEAPS will lose 150 million dollars a year. This is what this manager and board would like to saddle rate payers with. Until then they use LEAPS as an excuse to launder money and steal money for travel and attend meetings their paid for in the name of LEAPS. If they managed to push the project through more rewards would be waiting. How conveinient Good ol boy Grover Trash works with Best Best and Krieger in the department of conflict of intrest. I guess he's scared wants to be with his buddies. Guess what johnny boy brown hide under your daddies fat belly as long as you can. Just realize that big bag of hot air pacheco and the rest of the gang are not the only people in the world to report things to. Back to Mr. Ronald Young your a liar and you can stick all your good works and lies right up your ass. PS get a hair cut you look sloopy and unprofessional. Millions of rate payers dollars spent on a project that cant yet even be classified as a project. I read an article regarding LEAPS and Phil Williams stated in the article "DANG THATS ALOT OF MONEY" What a ignorant hick. Just so you know Phil DANG IS NOT A WORD YOU CREEP!

Anonymous said...

Grover Trash is following the money. EVMWD has made Best Best and Kreiger all millionaires. Money needed foe 100 year old pipes and water quality improvements is being laundered every which way but loose. John Brown is disguisting and twisted with a nose that smells fools and easy to get money from miles around. Sooner or later the crooks get caught John.

Anonymous said...

Well Wicke is the biggest culprit of spending EVMWD money for his self interest. Gugliemana doesn't shit from shineola about the water yet she is traveling to Washington, D.C. again for Sanitary water meeting. Williams I won't even go there he will be exposed. Ryan ---- should be ousted and they all should be recalled for spending rate payer money on the LEAPS project... Yes Gugliepiggy you are for the LEAPS project or they would not have spent EVMWD money to get you elected. Now they are trying to take control of the little water company so and have selected their candidates ......welllllll

Anonymous said...

I found the announcement in the paper regarding the hiring of an Assistant Manager at EVMWD very interesting. In conversations with several people - I was told that after 5 years Ron Young, General Manager of EVMWD gave in to hiring an assistant manager. Why not hire an assistant manager? Could it be CONTROL so the public would not know what goes on behind closed doors as to how our rate money is spent? Think about this. I was told on the current Board Agenda that l6 travel authorizations for employees are listed on that agenda. Think about it - what would we find if we checked all the agenda's further back. Rate money is being expended for travel travel travel travel expenses month after month I am told.

Isn't it interesting that they chose someone from the Irvine Ranch Water District where Young General Manager of EVMWD had to resign from is what I have been told. Obviously, he worked with that person at Irvine so guess things will remain the same at EVMWD behind closed doors holding secret meetings as it has in the past with Williams and Anderson on LEAPS. Now that Anderson is gone is it Wicke and Williams????

Obviously --- from flying rumors his this news came out this General Manager needs to be replaced.

Too bad we do not have anyone on the Board that will expose the illegal practices going on at EVMWD. Let's hope they trip and fall and are exposed.

Anonymous said...

When one knows the facts its obvious LEAPS will never be built. Best Best and Krieger are making millions and the EVMWD board is the reason why. LEAPS is an excuse to steal, they all know the project wont be built but continue to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Best Best and Krieger. John Brown is living in luxury on the backs of rate payers. Why is EVMWD allowing this

Anonymous said...

EVMWD has set up their accounting just like Enron. They dont include 3.5 million dollars in the budget and John Brown states publicly this is fine. EVMWD has an auditor that is on a board of 100 experts that travel and give speeches on their expertise. It just so happens EVMWD'S auditor is an expert in fraud. They need to look into the fact EVMWD is spending 3.5 million dollars that wont be paid back. Its obvious to everyone EVMWD is using LEAPS as an excuse to steal, travel, pay for meetings. Its obvious to everyone why not their expert auditor. He could use EVMWD as a case study on how our city government steals from its citizens. How hypocritical to speak on fraud and allow it right under your nose. The strings are unraveling. The party is going to be over soon.

Anonymous said...

Its very intresting how John Brown is quick to tell everyone that Grover Trask works for Best Best and Kriger in the department of conflict of intrest. Pacheco ive heard is even worse than Grover Trask. John Brown counts on his fix it people maybe thats why he thinks its fine and states publicly its ok to leave over 3.5 million dollars out of the budget.

Anonymous said...

NO Mr. Wilkie the Californian is NOT IMPARTIAL. That is why so many people are cancelling their paper with the Californian.

Greg Morrison PR Director of EVMWD has a hold with the Californian not to print anything that is derogatory against EVMWD. But turn out nasty publications against the other side.

Yes - we know and he expounds that he has influence with Republicans (like Issa)in Washington, D.C. - Sacramento and the Riverside District Attorney's office. So what.

Oh, YES, the Californian apparently will continue to report only one sided. Does that mean they don't care if they sell newspapers? But then they just recently sent around flyers asking people to take their paper - they put people out in front of stores to peddle their paper - but then they kick people who supplies them with abundance of information in the butt and won't print their articles if they don't agree with them but agree with the other side. HA! Ha! HA! I tell eveyone don't take the Californian they only print one sided.

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