Tuesday, October 2, 2007

EVMWD WRONG AGAIN

ELSINORE MAGAZINE 1
Reports indicate that Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District EVMWD are continuning to use Public Funds in an extorted, artificial manner inappropriately. The LEAPS Proposal as EVMWD laud it of as an Advance Pump Storage Project is no more than an Enron Fudge in order to utilize public funds in an attempt to appear legal on the stealing of public funds. The latest a MOU suggesting that EVMWD propose to run the would be LEAPS Project. Jumping from one plot to another plot.
EM1 suspect that racketeering and money laundering is eminent and apparent in the agency. EM1 urge the public and ratepayers to keep a very tight and close watch on how EVMWD the agency spends, allocates, and utilize the public monies. This is your, the public's money. You recently received a rate hike and it is right for you to know exactly what is going on. Get an attorney outside of Riverside and Orange county if need be. Make request to review all documents pertaining to the LEAPS Project and all of EVMWD's finances. Due to the high cost to obtain documents, an in house review is recommended with a camera, by manner of thePublic Records Act, The Freedom of Information Act, The amended State of California Constitution Prop 59. Make a point to find out if the spending of public funds is indeed budgeted directly, in the agency and always properly approved by the Board of Directors. EM1 do not belive that EVMWD the agency operate its business in the best interest of the general public and that, public agencies should not be allowed to hire big law firms but individual attorneys on an as needed bases only. If in fact the public business is run properly and in the best interest of the public then, there should be no need to hire big law firms to gulp up the public monies. Circumventing the law to do so. Legislation should repeal the use of big attorney firms for public agencies. Watch out for former Riverside County DA Grover Trash and present DA Pacheco he was selected by Grover Trask before he left the DA's position.
FORMER AND PRESENT RIVERSIDE COUNTY DA GROVER TRASK AND PACHECO QUESTIONABLE???????
Citizens are beginning to question former DA Grover Trask motives in that Grover Trask was the DA for about 30 years. He failed to prosecute a former Cty of Lake Elsinore staff member who's credible incriminating evidence found by the credible and sharp at figues, city Treasurer Peter Weber who filed a complaint on his findings in 2006 at the Riverside DA's office. Mr. Weber found that the former staff member among other things used the city's credit card for personal gain, her friends at a gambling casino, possible family members and other. Yet Mr. Trask failed to present good solid evidence to a judge, for a jurors decision. EM1 believes Mr. Trask took the law into his own hands on that case. The other is that Mr. Trask, immediately, after leaving his prosecuting positin as DA went to work for Best, Best & Krieger BB&K as a conflict of interest and ethics specialist, and in part represents EVMWD the water District. He also failed to look into complaints made by former EVMWD Director, Chris Hyland submiing on her opinion, various violations of the law in the district. She, also submitted complaints on days of service pay to directors where as directors was paying themselves illegally aganist their own policy and even with an, anonymous letter from " employees who is tired of self serving directors." He did nothing. It was also reported that the districts PUBLIC'S RELATIONS person had a straight line from the DA's office to Directors Phil Williams and Kristine Anderson keeping them posted as to what Ms. Hyland had submited to the DA's office, according to the employees letter.
In view of Mr.Trask failures, citizens have a hard time trusting the former DA's motive in working at BB&K for EVMWD the district. Mr. Trask, immediately set up classes pertaining to the Ralph M. Brown Act., shortly after a Brown Act violation at a EVMWD regular study session June 20th, where as Nevada Hydro and Morgan Stanley arrived at the study session after the session was already in progress, unannounced at 9:55am. They came in to give an update on the LEAPS Project and their current affiliation with one another. Without notice to the public nor on the agenda, a direct violation of the brown act. Director and President of the Board Ben Wicke allowed them to give the update without any objection from any of the other Board Members. A requst to cure the Brown Act violation fell on death ears without any response to the request . Many are wondering why the former DA set up Brown Act classes since public officials are already required to comply with all laws and attend classes and certified as having attended the classes. Mr. Trask, also have some former elected officials wondering why they were included in the notification to attend the classes in view of the fact they are no longer in office. It, has been learned that officials still in office at the city of Lake Elsinore and EVMWD nor staff members, did not receive notices to attend. EM1's, opinion is that the former DA and present DA may have a straight line to each other for EVMWD's benefit. He has involved and entwined him self with an agency who CONTINUES to be highly corrupt, unethical, disrespectful, cunning and conniving towards its ratepayers. EM1, also, believes that former DA Trask and present DA Pacheco is far to close to all the area agencies. EVMWD continues its ill practices against the public as if it have some fix it persons out there. Could the former DA be a fix it person for EVMWD, making the corrupt, incorruptible, appearing as legal? What has law enforcement come to have they any morals left? Why didn't the former DA go work for a prosecuting office instead of defense at BB&K/ EVMWD outside of his field. Citizens keep a close eye on this one.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Have gotten many expert opinions and all say dont take any info to the DA. In there arrogance they think their smart and powerful. To be so obvious shows the depth of their arrogance and perceived power to protect themselves. Im not surprised Phil and Anderson think their protected from the law but its suprising Trask and Pacheco are this careless and arrogant.

Anonymous said...

How stupid do you think trask is? 30 years is alot of experience. The first time he attempted to defend EVMWD against questionable ilegal practices he would be on the front page of the Press Enterprise. Remember now many already suspect he's corupt. He will simply slither around like a serpent on his belly giving his friends advice behind the scenes. For years he has kept his friends out of trouble, and I would be willing to bet never challenged by a single person to any strong degree. The monster called arrogance has grown within Mr. Trask, and he thinks he's all powerful and why shouldn't he up to this point he has been. Why do you think EVMWD feels safe spending 3.5 million dollars of rate payer money and not including it in the budget. Mayer Hoffman McCan are EVMWD'S yearly auditors and have been for many years. Are we supposed to think McCann didn't know about 3.5million dollars,their at EVMWD all the time. In fact one gentlemen from this auditing firm is on a prestigous board of probably around 100 people that travel around the United States giving their expertise at conventions. This gentlemens expertise is in FRAUD. He decided to ignore the fraud right under his nose but when your all mighty and powerful you assume due to arrogance everyone is stupid and wont bother to do anything, and the fact is he's right most people would find it aggravating and boring to investigate corruption. Some people find it fascinating their rare but their around. Mr. Trask is helping his friend john brown behind the scenes as well as BB&k and EVMWD. If any of these squirly folks get in alot of trouble the dominos fall 30 years is along time. The fact is good old boy grover has ignored all the abuse the city as well as the water board has demonstrated and in so doing it has grown to ilegal proportions. Will Trask look bad if EVMWD is prosecuted, ofcourse he helped create the monster of arrogance willing to waste rate payer money because he ignored their abuse for 30 years. Will Mayer Hoffman McCann look bad ofcourse the ring leaders expertise that he is well known and respected for is FRAUD. Not only is his reputation on the line so is his license. Of all auditors he knows what determines violating auditing standards, and he knows the consequences of that. This is a well respected man sought out in his circles for his expertise. EVMWD pays big money to hide behind those whom are respected. They use our dollars to hire lawyers to try and come up with scams so they can collect money. Hey Philly you should be having nightmares about now because you are going to explain where over a million dollars went. If you think You can hide behind your auditors reputation think again, I doubt they will leave LEPS out of the november budget audit you see phil why should they ruin their reputation and lose their license for a bunch of losers. Red kneck wicke pay attention old man and keep your temper in check your going to be with your creator soon your old and the elderly die of old age that monster of arrogance needs to die before you die of natural causes meaning old age. Someone said your 60 you look 90 i dont believe them. Mrs. Anderson you have to answer to inspite of your phobias. I saw you in public scream at the treasurer, why do you have such hatred toward him. Could it be because he knows what you and Phil have been up to. I know one thing not a one of you wants to go to court. Will BB&K look bad of course they have taken several million dollars of money from EVMWD trying to help push through LEPS with John as the ring leader. This money should have gone to rotten pipes but instead it went to a scam.

Anonymous said...

If there is a million dollar error in billing or simply money missing and this can be proven EVMWD is subject to a federal investigation. Under a Rico claim the following circumstances must exist. [1] Their members of an enterprise. [2]. Members must share a common purpose. [3]. The members must function as an ongoing organization formal or informal. [4]. Members must function as a continuing unit. To put it simply the scam goes like this. Create a problem purposely that has to be solved by the organization. Sounds like EVMWD meets the criteria and does this sound familiar. EVMWD created the LEAPS scam and found it quite lucrative. There are certainly alot of problems to solve which leaves it wide open for stealing in a way that does not appear ilegal to an inexperienced eye. Crooks are greedy lazy and usually sloppy individuals that have sometimes gotten away with criminal activity for years and never expect to get caught. This leads to the carelessness and if convicted under the Rico claim one may serve up to 20 years.

Anonymous said...

Yes Best Best & Krieger hired Grover Trask so they could protect the unethical practices of people like Phil Williams - Ben Wicke - Kris Anderson and Harvey Ryan and soon Gugliemannnnnn will be in that category because she is being told what to say and do by Phil Williams and she is no angel she as unethical as they come ask those who have lived here for a while. Ask Guglie to tell you about why the Spaghetti House was closed down.....

Anonymous said...

I found a plastic duck floating in the lake and I won’t give it back.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of the lake there was a little section in the californian today stating an area had to be closed off because they found high levels of ECOLI which is a bacteria that is present only when shit is present. shit is present somewhere in the lake perhaps a dirty diaper or something more sinister. When high levels of ECOLI are present it is an indicator that other more dangerous microbes may be present! I hope that brain gobbling microbe that causes meningitis and death within hours is not present, it likes very hot water so probably not. It killed a little boy that swam in Lake Havasu recently. The city is debating if they should put up signs to warn swimmers. Sounds like the old Lake Elsinore before Reform took place. They didn't even put up a sign warning there was a drop off very close to shore and allowed several children and teenagers to drown and a few adults one child was five. No matter how small the risk is a person should have a right to decide if they want to take that risk. Lake Havasu should not be debating the sign should go up. Its amazing how people put the all mighty dollar first before a persons life. Now regarding the duck take it to city hall and you can retrieve a prize, but rubber duckies are pretty cute so you may want to keep it just dont let any kids put it in their mouths and sterilize it in boiling water. The blip in the paper regarding Lake Elsinore was small just wanted to inform everyone.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like Hazmat has a job
to do .

Anonymous said...

I got your Hazmat Hanging Buddy..

Anonymous said...

I have an idea Gugli-lugi Phil anderson Wicke Ryan and lloyd and mayor magge and council all need to swim in the lake and do forward summersaults while inhaling deeply and forcefully thru the nose. But please be sure to walk on your hands and stir up that lake bottom first. Afterall its ok for the cities children to do somersaults and walk on their hands did you forgrt this is a favorite trick they like to do. And Our mayor may want to bathe in the lake since he thinks its" a beautiful blue jewel" as he stated in the valley news. Phil williams scares me every time he makes a statement in the paper. He stated in the valley news, are you ready for this one because its a doozy! "we are the first lake to allow full body contact in reclaimed lake water" Phil a little advice why dont you wait and see what happens before you tell everyone how proud you are about allowing unsuspecting visitors and residents and children to play in waste water. Someone died that played in the waste water all summer, but in your selfish world I guess the two couldn't possibly be related. Come play unsuspecting innocent kids phil says its ok. You sure as hell wont see him or his kids in the water the dirty bastard.In fact you wont see a single city official or their children near the water. A few go out on boats but with their knowledge their very careful. What about the rest of us well they dont give a fuck if your 3 years old swim away in the beautiful blue jewel. However this comment may be a blessing in disguise, some people dont know waste water is in the lake. Just when I think this man cant be anymore foolish or selfish he makes an even dumber statement.

Anonymous said...

Several comments have been made about the lake quality, which are mis-guided.
In the 80's the lake quality was so bad, boats had a layer of scum on the hull after only a few minutes in the water. Starting in the early 90's the lake started to improve, by the end of the 90's the lake showed significant improvement. Today the lake is cleaner and clearer than it has ever been. This is an on going process, not something that can be solved over night. EVMWD, the City and SAWPA have done a great job in cleaning up the lake. Currently, the lake level (1,242) is getting to the point where we will again start to have problems with the lake. EVMWD is putting in reclaimed water, water that is cleaner that what washes into the lake each time it rains, water that is cleaner that some public swimming pools. The amount coming in will not stop the lake from receding but it will slow it down. Putting in 5 mil gallons a day when 15+ mil evaporates is like filling a swimming pool with a shot glass. I am in and/or on the lake almost every day. The lake has seen a dramatic improvement over the years and I am proud of how it looks today. I have heard a ton of critisim from most everyone on this site about the lake but no one is making suggestions... If you want to complain fine, if you have other suggestions to help the lake then make them. Complaining is easy; helping to solve the problems and working to create a better Lake Elsinore takes hard work. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Anonymous said...

WOW. Finally some positive comments. I have read nothing but negative comments and I was getting tired of it. I have to agree, the lake is much better now than what it was when I was a kid and with the fans, aeriation, wells, etc. it will get better. I have no problem letting my kids play in the lake. IT LOOKS GREAT. It is nice to see there are positive people like me who think Lake Elsinore is a great place to be.

Gutterboo said...

As a member of LEMSAR (Lake Elsinore Marine Search and Rescue) I am on the lake every week. I have seen hundred/thousands of people enjoying the lake as they should. Over the past few years I have heard numerous comments on how much nicer the lake is over what is use to be. Yes, there are still some issues and yes, I would like to see things move faster but it is getting better. There are people who have noticed the change and like the direction things are going. I am not sure about the political side of things, but I do know this; The lake is getting better and to EVMWD and the City of Lake Elsinore, keep going there are people who appreciate the change.

Anonymous said...

While the views on this web site
tend to be one sided so do the
press releases given out by the
City and the EVMWD. To be an informed voter we all need to listen to both sides and draw our
own conclusions.

Anonymous said...

What it comes to is the lake city officials cant be trusted. And I get no pleasure about making this judgement about the current city council. The lake has improved it is pretty, but please aknowledge both sides. Past city council members allowed five deaths in a perioud of less than two years time in a known drop off near the shore. One victim was a five year old that visited our city anxiously looking forward to his camping trip. After the first death not even a sign was placed by city officials in this known drop off site. A young girl 15 visiting lake elsinore with her church group unsuspecting fell in the drop off and died. wading knee deep then the next second plunging into 12 feet of green moss to her death. A sign did not go up. Next a father with five children left to be raised by only the mom. After five deaths a sign never went up for many years. Now your wondering what does this have to do with the current city council and water board. well two city council members and the city attorney that were there during these deaths are still on the council. Some of the same water board members are still on the water board presently with the same attorney. The city and the water board respect their attorneys and take their advice. Their are three reform council members. A 25 year old just died last summer from a rare ameoba the symptoms are consistent with nigleria a type of meningitis caused by an ameoba that lives in shallow lake bottoms when inhaled in a mist it attaches to the olfactory nerve and causes death within weeks because it eats brain and nerve tissue. This girl lived on the lake and played on her wave runner which sits directly on the shore and slides. This ameoba lives and thrives in thermal powered waters EVMWD has been releasing reclamation water into the lake the past few years. The city council is doing the same thing they did with the drownings close their eyes to everything. I think the lake should be used for boating but a responsible city would not allow swimming in a lake that has miles of run off pouring into it. Run off can have alot of contaminents in it whatever is placed in the run off depending on what it is will reach the lake. Its good to be positive but when lives are at stake and you took an oath to protect them it is better to be cautious then close your eyes and pretend everythings fine because the lake has improved. The lake has improved it no longer smells. Does that mean its safe absolutely not. No matter how small the risk is we have a right to decide if we want to take it. Even though a young girl died mysteriously the city closed their eyes. Spin it whatever way you want the lake is not safe to swim in. Swimming should not be allowed and if it is signs should warn in spanish and english the lake may contain contaminents. Since the city closed their eyes to a young girls death no one checked lake bottom sediment for nagleria were not sure so thats an excuse not to post a sign. So the city will wait and see if another death occurs. Remember their armed with all this information so their children wont be in the lake, so what the water board and city council will do is sit back wait and see if another death occurs. It wont be one of their loved ones just like one of their loved ones would of never drowned because they were aware of the drop off. Their aware of the contaminents and their aware of this rare deadly meningitis so they or their children wont be swimming in lake elsinore. Dont be a brainwashed old fool your right the lake has greatly improved its pretty all true but does that make it safe for swimming absolutely not. When someones life is at stake it is always better to error on the side of caution for that your respected a human life is more important thaen money. By not being cautious as we have learned from the past more deaths may occur. Their are other deadly pathogens that can flow into the lake from run off dont be so foolish. The lake will always be poluted to some degree pull your heads out of the sand a beautiful blue jewel can be unpredictable just like the beautiful blue ocean.

Anonymous said...

I found some info on the pathogen for those who are intrested. Infection by the pathogenic naegleria fowleri is aquired by exposure to poluted water in ponds, swimming pools or lakes. Raised temperatures during hot summer months or a warmer source of water by as small as a degree instilled into a lake such as effluent treated waste water, industrial cooling power plant discharge and several others facilitate the growth of N. fowleri. Another example is urban run off such as the run off that flows into lake elsinore. The heat as it flows over cement asphalt and the enviornment warms the water which bacteria love. N. fowleri is a thermphilic ameoba it adapts to harsh enviornments and can even thrive in chemically polluted waters. The danger is waters that are polluted with chemicals attract the more dangerous thermophilles because nothing else can exist there. urban run off contains pet waste, trash lawn fertilizers, herbicides, as well as heavy metals oils and pollutants from vehicles. People sometimes think storm run off drains connect to the sewers and they pour all kinds of hazardous waste in them. In some cities these run off systems connect to the sewer, in lake elsinore they do not. The CNS infection called primary amebic meningoencephalitis or PAM produced by N. fowleri is characterized by an acute fulminant meningoencephalitis leading to death within seven days or longer depending on how rapid it spreads. Victims are healthy young individuals with a history of recent water related sport activities. The portal of entry is the olfactory neuroepithelium. The pathologic changes are an acute hemorrhagic necrotizing meningioencephalitis with modest purulent exudate mainly at the base of the brain, brain stem and cerebellum. Portal of entry is probably through the respiratory tract or an ulceration of the skin. Physcians stated what killed Nicole Hedberg was swelling eventually crushed her brain stem and she died about ten days later. What the above means is the ameoba ate away at the brain stem which caused bleeding which led to swelling and swelling was increased by purulent drainage or pus necrotizing means the infection caused the tissue to die. Waste,chemicals, heat, nutrient enriched polluted waters with run off describe lake elsinore and I believe this young woman died because she played and swam all summer in lake elsinore. She stirred up the lake bottom where the ameoba lives with her wave runner. And I also believe because I cant prove it thanks to no one caring and I say this because riverside county disease control did nothing and recently stated in the paper that we should not worry. I also believe the city will continue to allow anyone and everyone to swim in lake elsinore except that is; their families friends loved ones and ofcourse themselves. Evmwd can expel water into the lake that may kill the bacteria but they cant take out all the chemical that we put down our drains. People should not be swimming in the water it contains chemicals and pollutants. I do agree the lake is beautiful to look at but please do your homework because no matter how beautiful it is swimming should not be allowed.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the new Fire
Station that the city was going to build in Rossetta Canyon? It was in the newspaper a few months ago.

Anonymous said...

The city is thinking only of the new city hall which will put them in debt for a long time. That is their main priority so get used to it. The article in the paper stating Nicole Hedberg died of tylenol poisioning is ridiculous. The coroner knows the part of your brain that controls your body temperature is in the base of your brain. This area was damaged by infection. I can just imagine all the tylenol that was given to try and control her fever and most likley it didn't work. Ofcourse her liver would show tylenol poisioning but thats not what brought her to the ICU and that is not what killed her that is just a consequence of her treatment.

Anonymous said...

I can only imagine what condition the remaining tissue samples will be in when and if they reach the CDC.

Anonymous said...

You know they need that pier so when thier friends come up
from Newport Beach on thier yacht they have someplace to dock.

Anonymous said...

Well Killllllroy is busy spraying algacide all over the docks so maybe he will release some blue green algae and they will all get what they deservre, or better yet maybe they will fall into that soup of thermiphilles their creating with all the chemicals dog shit and algacides and inhale a few. yipee.. Im allowed to Dream Extreme!!

Anonymous said...

Nicole entered the hospital with a high fever which was difficult to control secondary to the brain stem damage in which the pathways that control temp were malfunctioning due to infection. One week of tylenol around the clock and organs shutting down can cause tylenol poisioning, her liver would not look ok as the forensic toxicologist stated if the tylenol abuse were due to chronic or long term abuse in this case liver scaring would be present. Short term tylenol poisioning a result of treatment did not show chorinic liver failure signs such as scaring as the forensic toxicologist stated. Whats wrong with the Riverside coroner. Why would he give a forensic toxicologist a report stating liver failure from chronic acetamenaphen abuse without the results of the definitive tests to prove it. He knows this will be in the paper. And why would Mrs. Cole director of disease control say dont worry in this case I think a beware or carful in the shallow lake would have been appropriate considerring a young girl died.

Anonymous said...

Why dont those in high positions protect the people. You have to be very cautious and untrusting in this day and age it seems or you may get hurt.You cant assume people are doing their job and that life is safe. Somehow people have lost a true sense of caring for others. If we cant even do that during our short life span here does our life mean anything. To hurt another person is to hurt yourself. Denial, rationalization,look the other way, lack of motivation there is no excuse not to do your job when people less educated etc. are puting their trust and sometimes their lives in your hands.

Anonymous said...

Its sad to say many but not all times it has to do with money. Have you ever heard a truer statement than this. MONEY IS THE ROUTE OF ALL EVIL.

Anonymous said...

I think the problem is people want to be liked and dont have the courage to stand up for whats right.

Anonymous said...

People better get their acts together and RECALL PHIL WILLIAMS. It appears he is violating closed session meetings. Secondly, he is an unethical liar that was proven by a recent lawsuit brought against him stating: 1. Breach of contract; 2. Professional Negligence; 3 Breach of Fiduciary Duty; 4. Fraud, and 5. Negligent Misrepresentation.

And why did he have to leave Century 21 - which he did recently.

Anonymous said...

It is really easy to hide in the background and talk negatively about Mr. Williams, but I have not seen any evidence he has violated any laws. You hide behind "anonymous" and are not man/women enough to stand up for your statements and sign your name. Mr. Williams has spent many hours of his time trying to make Elsinore a better place to live. What have you done to improve our way of life? except to participate in verbal mud slinging.

If he has violated so many laws why has he not been convicted? It looks like this is a personal matter, to me. He is up for re-election next year, if you want him out, it is your right to run for his seat. Use the political process to your advantage, not the back door verbal abuse method. Stand up and make your point, but you better make sure you have your facts straight. Once you start mis-stating facts like you have done here you start sounding like a crazy person who has nothing better to do but throw mud.

How dirty do you want to get?

And why do you care where he works? If he works for Century 21, Acme or XYZ Co. why does that matter to you? He needs to make a living for his family!

It appears you just have a personal problem with Mr. Williams that you can not get over and would prefer to sit in the back of the room and make false and misleading statements. Try moving to the front of the room and make a valid point with documented proof.

In this blog you have what maybe 5 people that read this, and even less that want to read your ranting and mis-guided hatred. I know these blogs are for this type of thing, but if you really want to make a difference don't hide in the background, step-up and make your case or grow-up, go-home and get a life...

Anonymous said...

Good try BUT IM NOT TELLING! Mr Williams has been used buter boo boo you know that. You should realize he is the least of our concerns. You see in your arogance you assume we all have a childish get even mentality. It's pleasing to me your counting on that. Mr. BOO BOO nothing anonymous about that name in fact its quite common there have been alot of boo boo's in Riverside County over the years. Maybe you could be the first boo boo to come forward and stop hiding in the back room with Phil and wicke anderson and the little man Mr. Lewanski whom you've given millions to. It takes alot of back room meetings to spend millions does it not? I know you want to know what my case is but I just dont think I should tell. Greed and stealing will drive one to hate who they are. You see greed leads to harm to others because money when used wisely can protect and even save lives something as simple as a sign. But when many are in the back room scamming the innocent are hurt. You know that Mr. BooBoo. If I were involved in activities that had indirectly hurt someone I would hate myself too. Lucky for you god forgives. He has everything under control, and he certainly does not need us to help him. We cant fix the world and if we try it will drive us insane or make us sick. BUT WHAT GOD DOES EXPECT US TO DO IS STAND UP AND TELL THE TRUTH AND EXPOSE WRONG DOING AND GOD WILL FINISH THE JOB IN HIS OWN WAY. He can lead alot of people to read this web sit so lets clean up the language. Mr. Boo dont assume your more powerful than GOD. You dont determine who reads this site he does. If he says a million a million it will be. Your hypochritical statement contains the word hate hiding two wrongs dont make a right but the boos out number the anonymous so we hide for now.

Anonymous said...

As you know Mr. Boo this is not a level playing field. I saw what the gang did to Chris Hyland A person trying to do exactly what god wants her to do expose the WRONG DOING. EVMWD sent her picture in a witches hat all over town. Rate payer money wasted to be hateful and cruel. These are words on a blog some are hurtful true. Perhaps the word hate applys to your group imagine that. REMEMBER TO HURT ANOTHER PERSON IS TO HURT YOURSELF.

Anonymous said...

Phil Williams has done nothing but lead the EVMWD into debt of over 4$4 million to 2 People who comprise Nevada Hydro Corporation. Nevada Hydro is teaming up with the CPUC to make the towers a reality, but Phil's dream of a hydro plant is doomed, it was never going to happen anyway, now because of Phil, we have electric towers that will become a reality, and EVMWD is out $4million. Phil is a very tough pill to swallow, he is having a meeting in Temescal Canyon to show off the LEAPS project. Phil, LEAPS is not going to happen, the towers are and without your help. Hell all you know how to do is spend EVMWD dollars on a project that isn't going to happen. Your out Phil, Nevada Hydro and the PCUC are in, as are the towers they will build. You are so stupid, don't you get it, you have been used, not like I care, but you used my money to do it with, use your own money, and get a job, stop making up meetings that you say you attend as an EVMWD representative so you can get money. Last I heard you can stand in front of the Home Depot for work, but get ready Phil, you will have to make something and complete a task, not bullshit your way as you do at EVMWD. There is no other work for a person of your credentials, get a job and leave EVMWD please, you've lost enough of my money on your wet dream you call LEAPS.

Anonymous said...

Gutterboo you talk about people exposuring who they are why don't you expose who you are - really your don't have to I already am sure who you are an a------.Your statement regarding Phil Williams "if he has violated so many laws why has he not been convicted?" Law enforsement takes a little time - just this morning on the news the Sheriff was under investigation for several years now they indicted him.

Also we have the documents and Mr. Williams is going to be exposed. They will come out in droves and expose his illegal conduct. He thinks he is infallible along with Wicke and Gugliepiggggggggy. Remember we have the facts .....and I know someone who has the documents and you can bet they will be used and many have already been used. So Mr. Gutterboooooooooooo expose who you are instead belittling others.

Anonymous said...

As a geologist I would advise no swimming in the lake it only takes a tiny amount of aresnic in the body to cause cancer, I dont think people understand the damage a small amount less than the size if the top of a needle can do. Its bad enough their digging up the lake bottom to build homes. The aresnic put the job on hold. On windy days wear a mask while construction is going on or stay inside. The lake bottom has heavy metals and pcbs substances you dont want in your body so humble yourselves if your trying to make a point by swimming in Lake Elsinore, and stay safe. These substances may take years to cause cancer but the potential is there. By encouraging swimming in Lake Elsinore you may hurt someone you love a long way down the road. So please stay out and stay safe. I know the risk of chronic ilness from heavy metals is alot higher then the ameoba you have written about. Take precautions and use common sense.

Anonymous said...

The CPUC and Nevada Hydro may succeed with the wires with the help of EVMWD which has been the plan all along in the mean time millions have been dolled out. BB&K has made a fortune calling Phil Williams sir along with Mrs Anderson and Mr. Wicke sir. Why would one advise them correctly when one is making a fortune. They are the three most responsible for this mess. If Mr. LLoyd has a conscience he better do something he's not a scamming greedy idiot so im not sure what he's waiting for but Mr. Lloyd dont let these people push you around their not honest people as im sure you know. They continue to have adhoc meetings over 5 years now to scam this is a clear violation of the brown act and Pacheco is giving classes on the Brown Act talk about gut wrenching disguist what a bunch of greedy sickos get angry Mr. Lloyd just enough to do your job believe me you have a huge amount of support backed up by eveidence and if you knew how much I know it would bring you much comfort and reassurance. Get to work and fight fire with fire you have as much right as Phil Williams its not his board like he thinks kick his ass because your smarter than him do it with knowledge and courage.